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Old 02-01-2010, 09:28 PM
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Mynä-Diesel Pump For Sale

Mynä-Diesel Pump For Sale
Hello all,

I have been holding onto this gem for quite some time now (two years) with the idea of creating my own Super-turbo Mercedes based on that of the green wagon from Finland. Unfortunately though, due to financial constraints (I'm a poor college student) I am forced to sell and be contempt with keeping my car stock... for now.

So, I am putting up for sale my modified Mynä-Diesel M pump for Om 617 engines. This pump has been completely redone by Mynä Diesel; seven mm elements--the biggest available--along with all gaskets, proper tuning, and some other small modifications, like the boost aneroid you'll see in the pictures. The pump is capable of supporting the fueling of up to three-hundred horse power, according to Mynä Diesel, with the proper air flow rates--different Turbo, porting of head ect-- and correct timing. It is my understanding that there is another forum member, on this site or another, who has the Mynä pump and actually ran it on a dynamo. Just on the stock set up he reported roughly 140 horse power at the wheels! As you can see there is incredible potential if this is coupled with the right setup.

All told, including shipping (120$), cost of the pump (300$), and the modification itself (1,250 Eur~ or 1,700 at an exchange rate of 1.36$) I have about 2120$ dollars into this piece.

Ideally speaking, I would like to recoup as much money as I can but given our current economic times this is probably not feasible as most of us don't have extra cash lying around. This is why I am willing to negotiate on the price and possibly by as much as a couple hundred dollars or more depending upon the circumstances. Keep in mind that since its modification no additional miles have been put on this pump. It is still dry in the orginal box that it came in. So please, if you have a price in mind contact me and we can discuss it. I would really like to see this go to a functioning project, to someone who will use, instead of it sitting in the corner of my room, and hopefully others too will be inspire to get their projects going.

Also, I will be uploading all receipts except for the original cost of the part as the pump was just bought informally from a friend's Euro 300d. In addition, there are three photos of said pump one of which is labeled with some numbering. This numbering was done by Anti before shipment of the pump back to the U.S describing all the various features and tuning options available--the shutdown aneroid, the fuel lines, and the primer pump were not installed yet when the pictures were taken. Upon request I can also email you the correspondence Anti and I had as the process took place.

If anyone is interested please email me at mpapiri2008@gmail.com and I will try to answer as many questions as best I can, although I think most of you probably have more technical knowledge on the subject than I do.

Oh, one last comment about shipping. I am willing to ship this international and depending on the final destination, I might be willing to contribute to a portion of the total shipping cost.

Mike P.

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Old 02-01-2010, 09:30 PM
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Here are the pictures and some comments that I received from Anti before arrival of the pump.

1) Max fuel delivery adjustment. It is now settled to max and if
> needed
> to decrease, turn clockwise (the pin moves to left as looking pic1).
> 2) Adjustment for fuel delivery without boost. Moving to right (as
> looking pic1) increases fuel delivery.
> 3) Boost pressure entry.
> 4) Idle speed adjustment. Decreases clockwise.
> 5) Oil hose connection. Now there is the locking in the place, which
> locks the pump for timing. The drilling where the locking pin goes is
> seen in the pic3. When the pump is installed and the timing is right,
> remove the locking and install oil hose connection as seen in the
> picture.
> 6) Fuel in.
> 7) Fuel out.
> 8) Outside timing mark.
> 9) Throttle lever limiter.
>
> Some modifications needed:
> -Re-bend fuel injection lines
> -Remade the rear mounting bracket of the pump
> -Lengthen the oil feed line
> -Mods for the throttle linkage
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:35 PM
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I was considering a turbo for my W115 with newer OM616. I had the pump done in Mynä-Diesel and forgot the turbo-thoughts.

The change was incredible, even without 7 mm. elements.

Best regards from Finland!

Petteri
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:39 PM
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too bad it's not for a om603
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:20 AM
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They do pump modifications to 616's also?
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Old 02-04-2010, 01:29 PM
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Oh yeah! Even the 7 mm. elements are available, but there´s no use for those without the turbo..
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:10 PM
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What are you asking?
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:41 PM
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Mynä-Diesel Pump now 1500$ without shipping.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:49 AM
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I was considering a turbo for my W115 with newer OM616. I had the pump done in Mynä-Diesel and forgot the turbo-thoughts.
So you can use these on non-turbo engines? I have a w115 617 (non-turbo) - would the myna pump mod do much for this engine? Also are the w115 617s the m-pumps or some other sort of myna mod-able pump? (it is definitely a different pump than the usa version w123 617s I've seen )
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:06 AM
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So you can use these on non-turbo engines? I have a w115 617 (non-turbo) - would the myna pump mod do much for this engine? Also are the w115 617s the m-pumps or some other sort of myna mod-able pump? (it is definitely a different pump than the usa version w123 617s I've seen )
It would be useless since the Myna pump is designed or a much higher fuel output. An OM617 NA with this would probably make the truck look like it's at a tractor pull!

The OM617 pump on the W115's are different but I am not sure if they can be modified to any degree.
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:41 AM
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The Myna pump can supply far more fuel than a non-turbo engine can use. You'd need more airflow. It probably would provide a power gain, but not much, even in the baseline setting it would probably smoke. The turbo engines normally have an excess air supply, and they can easily get more airflow by increasing boost pressure. You don't have that option on a normally aspirated motor.

617 engines are cheap these days, just buy a 617 turbo, plus this Myna pump, and swap it into your W115. Then it will be a rocketship!


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Old 03-19-2010, 04:35 PM
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617 engines are cheap these days, just buy a 617 turbo, plus this Myna pump, and swap it into your W115. Then it will be a rocketship!

It would be a OM617 rocketship I wonder how much HP the Finnish guys have got out of the motor before the block cracks.

The OM617.95x doesn't fit into a W115 because of the oil filter housing hitting the brake booster. It can be relocated but I don't know of anyone who has fabricated a filter housing. I pondered this with my W115 but perhaps the second time around...
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:14 AM
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The OM617.95x doesn't fit into a W115 because of the oil filter housing hitting the brake booster. It can be relocated but I don't know of anyone who has fabricated a filter housing. ...[/QUOTE]

here's a link to a guy that made the adapter: Alternative oil filter and oil cooler system

But I've heard that turbo motors and manual transmissions don't work well (heard lots of bad conversion stories) - but maybe that's because of the american IP (non m pump) - do they run the are the 617 turbos with manual transmissions in europe?
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:15 AM
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Do they use stock injectors with the Myna pump or do they use modified injectors?
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:52 PM
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Mynä-Diesel Pump still for sale at 1500$ without shipping.

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