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Old 09-12-2004, 09:54 PM
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Powell said what?

Oh, no, not another round of "he said, he said."

The players this time are Secretary of State Colin Powell and respected British journalist James Naughtie. According to Naughtie, Powell, in a conversation with British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, called Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz "f ----g crazies."

Powell denies it, and Straw backs him up, but Naughtie stood his ground, telling the New York Post: "Whatever the statements issued from the two offices concerned, I stand by the quote."
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Old 09-12-2004, 10:17 PM
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I never could figure out what Powel was doing working for those num nutz in the first place. Seemed like a inteligent "good" guy. Wonder if he got snoookered and felt he had to stay out of honor ... etc.
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Old 09-12-2004, 10:28 PM
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Similar to what Gen Tommy Franks, said about Douglas Feith, Undersecretary of DoD:

"...One of the dumbest f**king guys I ever had to deal with on a daily basis..."

The Onion has it best: "Bush runs a better campaign than war."

Its too bad. for the country
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:24 AM
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Powell stepped off the reservation again today:



Kerry challenges Bush on Iraq-9/11 connection
Says administration is implying link that has been disproved
Sunday, September 12, 2004 Posted: 8:58 PM EDT (0058 GMT)



(CNN) -- Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry accused the Bush administration Sunday of falsely linking Iraq to the attacks of September 11, 2001, "in its desperate attempts to reinvent a rationale for the Iraq war."

Kerry made his charge in a statement released after Secretary of State Colin Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he has seen nothing to link Saddam Hussein's regime with the 9/11 attacks.

"We know that there had been connections and there had been exchanges between al Qaeda and the Saddam Hussein regime. And those have been pursued and looked at," Powell said on the program.

"But I have seen nothing that makes a direct connection between Saddam Hussein and that awful regime, and what happened on 9/11."

Kerry said Powell "came clean with the American people about the lack of a connection between Iraq, Saddam Hussein and the September 11 attacks."

Not only that, Kerry said, Powell also contradicted comments Vice President Dick Cheney has made as recently as Friday.

At campaign stops Thursday and Friday, Cheney mentioned al Qaeda in discussing the Iraq war, but he did not link Iraq under Saddam to September 11.

On Thursday in Cincinnati, Ohio, Cheney described Saddam as a "man who provided safe harbor and sanctuary to terrorists for years" and who "provided safe harbor and sanctuary as well for al Qaeda."

In Wisconsin on Friday, he said the "al Qaeda organization had a relationship with the Iraqis."

"The bottom line is that we're [in Iraq] for the safety and security of the nation, and our friends and allies around the world," Cheney said.

"We didn't do anything to provoke the attack of 9/11. We were attacked by the terrorists, and we've responded forcefully and aggressively."

In June, Cheney said "we don't know" whether Iraq was involved in 9/11.

In September 2003, Cheney said Iraq under Saddam had been "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."

But at the time President Bush said, "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11 [attacks]. What the vice president said was that he has been involved with al Qaeda."

The independent, bipartisan panel that investigated the attacks released its final report July 22. The 9/11 commission found there were numerous contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda in the 1990s, but it said those contacts did not result in a "collaborative relationship."

In his statement Sunday, Kerry complained that Cheney "continues to intentionally mislead the American public by drawing a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11 in an attempt to make the invasion of Iraq part of the global war on terror.

"The president needs to answer the question: Who do you think is right? Vice President Cheney or Secretary Powell? And if it's Secretary Powell, will you direct your vice president to stop misleading the American people?"

The Kerry statement continued: "On an issue of such importance, where U.S. troops are bearing nearly 90 percent of the burden, and American taxpayers are paying $200 billion and counting, the administration has an especially solemn obligation to conduct itself in an honest and straightforward way.

"Unfortunately, in its desperate attempts to reinvent a rationale for the Iraq war, this White House has repeatedly chosen to mislead the American people."
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:52 AM
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It's most unfortunate that Powell has made it clear he won't consider a run for the Oval Office himself.
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Old 09-13-2004, 06:43 AM
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Given his performance over the last year I am not sure I would trust him anymore. The final straw was what he said on the news yesterday about Dick's statement. We all know what cheney meant, we don't need a clarification or "explanation". Powel disappointed me.
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Powell seems like a good guy when compared to the "f***ing crazies", as he calls them, but that hardly qualifies him to be President. He knew who he was dealing with when he took the job. When you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
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Old 09-13-2004, 09:32 AM
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It's most unfortunate that Powell has made it clear he won't consider a run for the Oval Office himself.
I agree, although his unholy alliance with the current administration would hurt him with a lot of folks...
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