You seem to be having a serious problem with comprehension. Either that or my English is seriously flawed.
Let me recap what I have said so that you don’t have to strain that obviously weak memory of yours.
In my first post I have stated that the Holocaust is being exploited for monetary gains (from which obviously Israel is reaping the most benefit) and that there is a constant and never ending reminding going on in the popular media (newspaper, radio, television) regarding the losses the Jews have suffered yet not a word, not a sound, hell not even a peep about the tens of millions of gentiles who also perished. I backed this assertion with a quote from non-other then Tomer Kleinman, the president of the Jewish student association at the U of California. (“various Holocaust deniers and other nuts” you say, I say hardly!)
Then I have named 7 prominent players in the communist movement/administration stating their Jewish origin. Out of the 7 5 had clear Jewish connection, 1 did not (Engels) and 1, Beria is questionable according to you, however here is a quote from the book written by Kaganovich’s nephew: “Besides Molotov, Voroshilov had married a woman of Jewish extraction, Beria's mother was half-Jewish, Khrushchev's son-in-law was of Jewish origin, and Lazar himself was a Jew.”

About Lazar Kaganovich: he was not a minor politburo member (as you have stated), he was one of Stalin's chief aides, commissar of heavy industry during the Second World War, and a member of the Politburo Here are the words of his nephew in his book about his uncle: Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin: “Lazar's sister Rosa was Stalin's third wife; another uncle was commissar of aviation under Stalin. This book is based upon the author Stuart's interviews with his uncle Lazar in 1981, and with other family members. Stuart Kahan is a Zionist (p. 5, p. 17, p. 307); on moving to America, the family changed its name from Kaganovich to Kahan (p. 190), a variant of Cohen (priest).

{p. 5 (Preface)} In my own family ... the leader of the clan ... exuded evil, an evil that put millions of people to death, an evil that turned against his own people. ... He is the prime example of the species known to my fellow landsmen as the "self-hating Jew".
{"turning against his own people" means co-operating with Stalin in his purge of the Jewish Bolsheviks, but Kahan shows less pity for the non-Jews they killed; Kahan seems to think it a greater sin for his uncle to kill Jews - "his own people" - than non-Jews}

{p. 5} Some of my own family will not like what they read here.

{p. 14} Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich, Stalin's closest confidant, the chairman of the Soviet Presidium, the man who set up the amalgamation of the state security forces that later became the infamous KGB, the man who personally supervised the purges that ran rampant through Russia in the thirties and forties, the man who

{p. 15} instituted more restrictions and quotas on the Jews than anyone else, the man who urged and orchestrated the deaths of 20 million people, the man who brought Khrushchev to power, the man who was in charge of building this fantastic subway system - which bore his name for over twenty years - the ultimate Jew-hater himself, and the only Jew in the hierarchy. ... {but Beria, head of the NKVD (Cheka, KGB), was also a Jew; see p. 256 below}”
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I backed the identity of these 6 (6 only since Engels indeed was a goyim) people from books published by Jewish authors in my last post. The David Irwing site maybe anti-Semitic however the quoted source on his site is a Jewish Book review written by a Jewish (Zev BEN-SHLOMO) author. Just because the Mona Lisa is exhibited in a Mafia owned gallery it is still an original. The other website www.bibliomania.com is a book review site supported by an Academic Board which comprises leading literature professors from Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Oxford universities. They recommend which books should go on and their priority. I clicked on every link, only the administration part is out of order (and some of the javascripts need attention). Everything else is fully operational. And no it is not in my closet, here is the address: 26 Gaytons Road, London Nw3 1TY, UK.

Then I stated that part of the anti-Semitic tendencies in the host nations were caused by non other but their (the Jews‘) inability or unwillingness to assimilate. I backed this up by Jewish writers and with quotes from their books.

"Ultimately, Benjamin Ginsberg [GINSBERG, B., 1993] alludes to the reoccurring paradigm to all this, that Jews throughout European history have sought benefit from allegiance to ruling powers -- from absolute monarchists to communist dictatorships -- which oppressed, suffocated, and even massacred non-Jewish masses. As a people who historically distanced themselves from the indigenous peoples of every land they lived and as centuries-old nemeses of the Christian order, Jews were ideally suited to function as dispassionate legislators -- and exploiters and oppressors -- over those of whom they had no bond or interest. "The Gentile population in general," says Ewa Morawska about Eastern Europe, "and the inhabitants of villages surrounding the [Jewish community] in particular, were seen by Jews primarily in instrumental terms as suppliers of ... material livelihood." [MORAWSKA, p. 15] For those many Jews who had a religious basis in their lives, traditional Judaism often served the interests of devaluing others. As consequence, Jewish communities periodically engendered the wrath -- and sometimes violence -- of the common populace."
Benjamin Ginsberg, a prominent Jewish intellectual, is Professor of Political Science at John Hopkins University .
Ewa Morawska, Ph.D. Professor of Sociology, University of Pennsylvania (“various Holocaust deniers and other nuts” you say, I say hardly!)



Have you finally gone mad completely? Where is a reference in my posts to “Jewish conspiracy” , the Torah or Mao? I merely pointed out the disproportional representation of the Jews in the Communist/Bolshevik movement and administration. And no, communism was not a “worldwide” movement at the time, it was strictly a European phenomena (except for the fledgling Chinese Communist Party which received financial aid from the Soviets after 1920 but didn't really amount to anything until much later). You know I don’t expect you to know this but Europe ends at the Ural mountains in Russia. Not at the Ukranian border.
In case you missed it I also failed to mention anything about the “Devil”, “infanticide” or even Judaism.
You , for some unknown reason equate Jewish with Judaism. They are two different things. One can be a Judaist (did I just invent a word here?) if he/she converts however one can never be Jewish for he/she has to be born into a race to be a part of it. Jewish is a race, Judaism is a religion. Communists are atheist by definition.

You should seriously ease up on the hallucinogens dude, they not good for you (did you shot, snort or administer anally too much in the late sixties early seventies perhaps?). Don’t try to read anything into the post that is not there, you are not that smart.
I have stated an opinion in my first post (not a conclusion as you have suggested!), when challenged backed it up from Jewish sites, from Jewish authors.
There was a disproportional representation from Jewish background in both the ideological as well as the execution (pun intended) side of the communist/bolshevik movement. Israel exist thanks in great part to the financial assistance extorted form the German government. And yes, there is extraordinary attention being paid to the Jewish part of the human tragedy of the 20th century, the tragedy that was in great part caused by the acts of the aforementioned Jewish contributors, conveniently forgetting the rest of the other victims on both sides of the conflict (WWII). In retrospect Auswitz was but a footnote in human history, not for those who died there but for those who were hanged by the Lenin Boys in Hungary, have starved to death by the millions in the Ukraine, were murdered during the Stalinist purges in Russia (or more correctly CCCP), disappeared into the Gulags of Siberia, or in the killing fields of Cambodia. How about “your” contribution to the recent atrocities: Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki?!
And finally, after reading this I hope that that ever present subtle foaming at the mouth turns into a full blown vain popping incident and lastly you give up that un-grateful, yet self chosen title of defender of all human suffering, for you have never disliked a politically correct cause when you saw one, and finally you meet your maker, God willing. Or just drop dead!

Alex

The anti-semetic jew haters have tried blaming the jews for everything including global warming.......and use every way they can to rationalize their hatred.....

fact is they are still wrong......and millions of Jews WERE killed, and had we not been the Victors the entire Jewish population of Europe would have been exterminated.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

horse dookey. The Chinese government is drifting farther and farther away from Mao as it gathers steam in the capitalist free market. I suspect that in 10-15 years there will be something other than the one party Communist system in China. That will leave North Korea, which will implode one day soon when the general populace gets tired of starving to death so that Elvis Jr can build a nuke arsenal..........

Perhaps communism was a necessary first step for them before they could get to capitalism. When I went to college in th 70's, I had an economics professor who made a compelling case for that position, and he was of the opinion that if Asiatic and Central American societies fell to communism, it would actually help them to eventually find democracy and capitalism, because their societies were so corrupt only communism could get rid of the corruption. Instead of being against communism, in those countries where the majority of people wanted it, like Vietnam and China, we should just let it happen, and only fight it in places where it had been forced on an unwilling population, like Hungary for example. Look at Cuba - it was ruled by the Mafia, thanks to us. Fidel had majority support to get rid of the corrupt government we supported. Vietnam had a corrupt government we supported. China did. The first thing commies do when they get in power, is shoot the corrupt ruling class or force them to flee. For these countries, this was a good thing. Democracy did not work for these people. Societies evolve just like organisms, and this is what is happening. As soon as Fidel is dead, they will be on the way. Same is true all over Asia.

Help me out here. Exactly why is Dacia an anti-semite? Is it wrong to opine on the influence of the religious backgrounds of political leaders?

Lets take for example....oh ....our current president.

Quote Dacia:
"I am getting really tired of it. Stalin's agricultural policies have killed an estimated 5 million ukraniens, Pol Pot may have killed over 2 million Cambodiens, we have no idea how many chinese died because of a jewish idea of communism. Karl Marx (Moses Levy Mordecai, or Mordecai Levi) was jewish, Engels was jewish, Lenin was jewish, Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein) was jewish, Frankel Leo was jewish, Beria was jewish, Kaganovich was jewish. I think the point is made. Never ever have been so many people killed in the name of a failed ideology that is clearly of a jewish origin. What is a mere 6 million (if so?) when we can easily estimate tens of millions murdered worlwide in the name of Marxism/Leninism/bolshevism/communism. Do we hear a siren song for those?"
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Tell me Botsnst, what is a "jewish idea of communism"? Isn't the implication that the Jews killed in Germany was far outweighed by all the people the Jewish Communists killed?

The practice of linking Jews to the world communist conspiracy originated with the Nazis. The implication is clear. They are the enemy. BTW- "Dacia" is another name for the areas of the former Yugoslavia and Romania that sided with the Nazis in WWII. Dacia is a blatant anti-semite. The theme of all his/her postings is the Jews got what they deserved.

mmmmmmmm. Did you join the Klan recently? or the NeoNazi's I never heard so much anti-semetic propaganda come from someone who wasn't one of their members.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Are you addressing that to me?

yes.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Are you even following what is going on in this thread? You can't be that ignorant.

Most of that crappola probably is antisemitism masquerading as scholarly enquitry. Dacia brought it up for discussion. Does that make Dacia a Nazi? I don't think so. But then, my definition of Nazi is much more uh, "conservative"
than yours. I can't imagine carpet bombing folks with that label. I'm more of a precision, "Tomahawk" kind of guy.

To each his own.

I followed what you wrote, I read it.....

My comment is people have been blaming everything on the Jews for thousands of years..........lots a false accusations have been made and written about.......

Next someone is going to say Adolf was a Jew, and Mouselinni, ANd soon someone is going to say Bush is.

Jews are the favorite scapegoat of way too many people.

And just because its in print doesn't make it factual.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

The answer to my own question is "yes"

No...your question was answered......

You can find something in print to support ascertations the Kennedy was killed for surpressing information we were visited by space aliens if you want. Doesn't make it true.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

As difficult as this concept is, you and KV seem to be in complete agreement here. You may have misread one of his earlier posts that quoted another poster.