Did Nichols & McVey Work Alone? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

#1 12-07-2004, 09:42 AM

Here is a good conversation starter:

What do you think of the oft-referred to premise that McVey & Co. were aided by a middle eastern terrorist type? There are reports of John Doe #3 and how he was supposedly of Arab descent. There is a reporter in OKC (don't remember her name) who has written a book about this. I suppose that there is some degree of credibility in this, I have often wondered about how Nichols & McVey were able to put together such a device. Nichols is a nutcake and McVey seemd to be a dumbass. McVey did not seem to receive any sort of training in the Army that included improvised explosives. I know stuff like that is on the internet, but it seems like those two would have needed some help.

Snibble · #2 12-07-2004, 09:47 AM

They were both in a militia... militia's know how to blow stuff up. I would imagine thats where they learned. Any links to support your writings about the John Doe #3 or what not?

#3 12-07-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snibble

They were both in a militia... militia's know how to blow stuff up. I would imagine thats where they learned. Any links to support your writings about the John Doe #3 or what not?

Here is the web site of the reporter, Jayna Davis who raises this premise.

http://www.jaynadavis.com/

kerry · #4 12-07-2004, 02:36 PM

I have a vague recollection of a recent lawsuit in which it is claimed that a government law enforcement agency knew in advance of the OK bombing because the Southern Poverty Law Center had infiltrated a supremicist group and learned of the plot ahead of time.
Anyone more familiar with it?

boneheaddoctor · #5 12-07-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake

Here is a good conversation starter:

What do you think of the oft-referred to premise that McVey & Co. were aided by a middle eastern terrorist type? There are reports of John Doe #3 and how he was supposedly of Arab descent. There is a reporter in OKC (don't remember her name) who has written a book about this. I suppose that there is some degree of credibility in this, I have often wondered about how Nichols & McVey were able to put together such a device. Nichols is a nutcake and McVey seemd to be a dumbass. McVey did not seem to receive any sort of training in the Army that included improvised explosives. I know stuff like that is on the internet, but it seems like those two would have needed some help.

Hillary Clinton was a silent partner.....................................Jane Doe #3 more like it.

koop · #6 12-07-2004, 03:09 PM

Good thing we executed McVeigh.

boneheaddoctor · #7 12-07-2004, 03:18 PM

Well we all know Hillary is realy a hairy Lebonese guy named Abdul in drag.........

KirkVining · #8 12-07-2004, 04:18 PM

Please forgive bonehead. The real truth is that Hillary gave birth to bonehead when she was in high school. He still carries grave resentments, especially about her leaving him in a basket on the door step of a local Klan leader's trailer.

shane · #9 12-07-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining

Please forgive bonehead. The real truth is that Hillary gave birth to bonehead when she was in high school. He still carries grave resentments, especially about her leaving him in a basket on the door step of a local Klan leader's trailer.

Now that is funny. Although I heard he was left at home all the time with nothing to watch but the TV.

KirkVining · #10 12-07-2004, 04:36 PM

Back to the topic of this thread, the answer to this may be known shortly, because it has been reported that Nichols has found religion and is now spilling the story to the feds. Myself, I believe they acted alone. Building a bomb of that type does not require a whole lot of expertise - in fact goat farmers in the Middle East have been building ones just like them for years. In the trial they went into great detail on how they built it, for around $10,000, money they raised in a burglary of a gun collection. I also believe John Doe #3 was resolved to everyone's satisfacation. The trials of these guys consumed millions of dollars and man-hours by both the FBI and Oklahoma state authorities. I have a hard time beleiving any possible connection was not thoroughly examined.

dolebludger · #11 12-07-2004, 05:31 PM

I'm from the Okla City area, and was pretty close to this situation, obviously. John Doe #3 was never thought to be of Middle Eastern descent. He was thought to be caucasion (whatever that means) and perhaps part Hispanic or Native American. Very early in the police activity after the bombing, a man of Middle Eastern descent was detained and questioned, but this was before McVey, John Doe #3, or any other perp emerged as a suspect. He was not involved at all, and was cleared very quickly. By that time, the FBI had traced the Ryder van and got descriptions of who rented it. McVey. Nichols, and John Doe #3. Mc Vey was stopped driving out of Olka City on I 35 for no tag on his rattletrap, and was found to have no ID. To jail he went. Warrant search turned up the search for one matching his description, for the bombing. Police and FBI traced his activities and turned up Nichols. As to John Doe #3, many responsible people reported seeing him with the other two in places and at times that coincided with their known movements. Contrary to legend, the authorities did look for John Doe #3. They even questioned an acquaintance of mine just because of his looks (he was of course innocent), and he is of English descent!

It would make a better story to have a ring of Middle Eastern terrorists involved, but that's not the way it happened. What we had were home-grown anarchists, or whatever you want to call them. And John Doe #3 is merely the man wh got away (so far).

Thanks,
Richard

Botnst · #12 12-07-2004, 06:10 PM

They both worked as subcontractors from Halliburton to Bin Laden Construction Company in explosive demolition of buildings. Dick Cheney saw an opportunity to sway the public to accepting more gov survellance by having his willing dupes destory a fed bldg. All He had to do then is find a sucker to invite him to be VP and Cheney could take over the world by faking the WTC destruction.

Its perfectly simple.

MTI · #13 12-07-2004, 07:08 PM

I suspect that Penske set up U-Haul in all of this.

boneheaddoctor · #14 12-07-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining

Back to the topic of this thread, the answer to this may be known shortly, because it has been reported that Nichols has found religion and is now spilling the story to the feds. Myself, I believe they acted alone. Building a bomb of that type does not require a whole lot of expertise - in fact goat farmers in the Middle East have been building ones just like them for years. In the trial they went into great detail on how they built it, for around $10,000, money they raised in a burglary of a gun collection. I also believe John Doe #3 was resolved to everyone's satisfacation. The trials of these guys consumed millions of dollars and man-hours by both the FBI and Oklahoma state authorities. I have a hard time beleiving any possible connection was not thoroughly examined.

Wait till word comes out he was sponsered by the Rose Law firm............

JimSmith · #15 12-07-2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining

Please forgive bonehead. The real truth is that Hillary gave birth to bonehead when she was in high school. He still carries grave resentments, especially about her leaving him in a basket on the door step of a local Klan leader's trailer.

Kirk, you forgot to mention she got impregnated by some Saudi guy called bin Laden when she met him at some social event and shook his hand. Apparently he just came from the mens room and had some fresh produce on his fingers, and shook her hand. On her trip to the ladies room, while wiping the dew off her lilly she deposited some of bin Laden's produce by mistake, and now we have ..... first hand, or is it second hand, evidence of boneheaddoctor's theory! Jim