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Old 06-19-2005, 06:36 PM
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One dead innocent man is better than setting free 100 guilty murderers.
Maybe that one can be you! I know it's a stretch for you but those 100 murderers will be in jail not free think about it.
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Old 06-19-2005, 06:48 PM
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Maybe that one can be you! I know it's a stretch for you but those 100 murderers will be in jail not free think about it.
THats what the 10 appeals are for.........time to prove it was a mistake before you get the chair.. Thats why I don't fight against those appeals rights...becasue the system isn't perfect.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:30 PM
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THats what the 10 appeals are for.........time to prove it was a mistake before you get the chair.. Thats why I don't fight against those appeals rights...becasue the system isn't perfect.
All those appeals cost approximately double the cost of keeping the SOB in prison for the rest of his life. Whether you believe it or not, giving them life without the possibility of parole costs significantly less money, over the long haul, and it also eliminates the risk of killing a man who has been wrongly convicted.

If you think that there are no wrongful convictions of minorites in certain southern states, you had better think again.
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:26 PM
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THats what the 10 appeals are for...
Appeals are rarely for reintroduction of evidence. They are primarily to ensure all appropriate rules were followed at trial. Unlike the original trial, there is ZERO presumption of innocence. Deciding guilt or innocence is not the function of the appeals process.

Also, people always point out the cost of the appeals process - trouble is, they forget it cuts both ways. The public pays a big bill, but the cost of bringing the appeals can also be huge for the convicted. If wrongly convicted and poor, you better hope somebody takes up your cause, otherwise you'll certainly fry.

F. Lee Bailey was quoted as saying the following - if he thinks you've got an uphill battle in the appeals process, it's pretty safe to say the vast majority of folks wrongly convicted are screwed.

“Appellate courts have only one function, and that is to correct legal mistakes of a serious nature made by a judge at a lower level. Should a jury have erred by believing a lying witness, or by drawing an attractive but misleading inference, there is nothing to appeal.”

Add to the above, if you oppose the death penalty, you can NOT be on the original jury in a case where the DP is on the line. Depending on what polls you believe, 30-50% of all people are therefore ineligible to serve on these juries. How's that for skewing the pool? Doesn't matter how fair minded you are or how well you can judge guilt or innocence, you get the boot based on actions you would take in the penalty phase, IF THERE IS ONE.

So much for a jury of one's peers...
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