Gun Control

[Snibble]

Well.. I found an article today in which I thought people would have a friendly debate with. It deals with Gun Control... check it out: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021204/hl_nm/guns_murders_dc_1

[LuckyF8]

Gun Control, is being able to hit your target.

No more, no less.

Originally posted by LuckyF8
Gun Control, is being able to hit your target.

No more, no less.

Another version: "Gun control means using both hands."

BTW, I'm proud to say that when the NRA had a national television program a few years back, I directed it.

[Kuan]

OK Snibble, why don't you give us your position on gun control. We go from there PUk puk puuuuuuuuuuk!

Kuan

[Snibble]

I am personally not sure...

I like guns. I think its cool to go target practicing, which I have never ever done in my life. But I do beleive that the more guns out in the public would cause a higher number of homicide. So I am not sure on whee I stand on this issue But I do know that most of the people here ont his board are conservative pro-gun people and thought yall would like this article :p

[need2speed]

Firstly, my thoughts here are only directed to the ownership of guns for home defense and personal protection. It seems to me that the desire to own guns for personal protection is just a reflection on people's lack of feeling safe in their homes and neighbourhoods. When people feel safer, they won't want guns for protection.

But what if we are in a vicious cycle where the gun industry profits from both the innocent AND criminal ownership of guns? As Eisenhower warned about the military-industrial complex, should we fear manipulation of the debate by those who don't really care about a safer society...just a well-armed one?

[TTaM]

In fact, the six states with the highest rates of gun ownership--Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, West Virginia and Arkansas--had more than 21,000 homicides, nearly three times as many as the four states with the lowest rates of gun ownership--Hawaii, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Jersey.

I'm pretty sure the states listed w/ the most gun owners have a lot more people than the states listed w/ low gun ownership. More people=more murders, sad but true.

[TTaM]

In fact, the six states with the highest rates of gun ownership--Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, West Virginia and Arkansas--had more than 21,000 homicides, nearly three times as many as the four states with the lowest rates of gun ownership--Hawaii, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Jersey.


Actually I was wrong, more states, though an equal amount of people. They should also consider poverty levels in each states. Poverty has been known to cause violence, not just guns

I like to shoot guns for target practice, but I've never progressed beyond .22 caliber.

While I consider myself neutral on the gun-control issue for the most part, I'm in favor of more stringent buying requirements for guns (e.g. background checks, waiting periods, etc). However, no amount of gun control will prevent people who want to use guns in a homicidal fashion from obtaining them.

-Sam

PS: I'm surprised that California didn't make the list in the article. LA, anyone?

[TTaM]

Originally posted by mbz380se


PS: I'm surprised that California didn't make the list in the article. LA, anyone?

I'm sure the study only took into account legal, registered guns

[jjrodger]

Guns are profoundly unacceptable in the UK mainstream. I'm thinking about getting a (licensed) shot gun, partly because I've started going shooting (and a gun is kind of useful on such occasions) and partly (I shouldn't say this in case big brother is watching) because I'd feel safer having one at home.

It may well be that where there are more guns there are more homicides. But statistics don't tell everything. WHO is getting shot? If there are lots of homicides because lots of criminal-types are getting shot or are shooting each other, that's fine by me.

Shot my first gun about one year ago. A friend from school invited me to go target shooting with him. I envisioned .22's, and maybe some 9mm pistols. I arrive at the range, and his former Marine father pulls out about six cases which contained the following weapons: (drools, my favorite weapons are here!) A G3 battle rifle (German Army Issue, 7.62x51), AKS-47(folding stock, 7.62x39) a MAC-10, a Broomhandle Mauser pistol in 7.63 caliber, and an Armalite AR-15 in 5.56x45 caliber. Insane. I always wanted to shoot a gun, and on that day I was in heaven with my boy the G3. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. If guns were outlawed, people would use knives and clubs just like long ago. Guns just upgrade the ease of murder.

I'm sure the study only took into account legal, registered guns

Leaving out most every MAC-10 ever made, as well as a number of Glock 9 MM weapons....

-Sam

Was not a full auto version...single shot.

MAC= Military Armaments Corporation. Designed to replace pistols etc for tank crews to use as self defense. 32 round clip, cyclic rate of fire of 1145 RPM.


BTW the one the guy had I referred to as the MAC 10, but it was actually the Cobray 9mm M11