I have a computer an Intel Pentium II that the mother board died (could see burned chips on board). In this computer I had a 10GB hard drive (master) and a 30GB hard drive (slave). I have since have purchased a new computer, a 3.0 Pentium 4 clone, 512 Ram, 80GB hard drive. I would like to install my old hard drives into the new computer to get the info out of them and into my computer. The problem I am having is that when I set the jumpers on the old drives to slave the new computer does not automatically see the new installed drives. It will not allow me to configure the BIOS to show that I am adding a new drive. Can some one tell me how to properly add another drive? Everything I've read thus far says that the system will automatically see the drive and configure it. I have not been able to get the new computer to see the drive. Will there be a problem with one of the old drives (the 10GB) having OS installed in the drive, I think it is 2000.
Thanks for the help.
rene

It's likely your new PC will have one cable to connect both HDDs, an 80-wire IDE cable with two female ports to connect the HDDs to. You should connect both HDDs to this one cable and set the jumpers to 'CS' - cable select. Note that both HDDs should be set to CS and put the old drive in the middle of the cable and the master drive at the top connection.

You may run into some random errors having the old OS on the old drive. You may want to wipe the old OS first thing when you attach the old drive to the new PC and get it up and running.

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Your new computer most likely has 2 IDE connectors on the motherboard so you can connect up to 4 drives total. Each IDE connector should have a cable connected to it that allows the connection of 2 drives. One must be jumpered as MASTER and one as SLAVE. Each drive must also be connect to power via the Molex connector.
The BIOS should detect the drives if they are configured properly. Be sure to save the BIOS settings after the drives are detected.

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Is your new computer not detecting it at all or is there a error response in the boot up? You may want to check all your conections. Mine locked on one day and I found that the IDE came loose.

The OS should auto detect it with out issue. I have done this on various systems and never had a problem. The only thing you will have to do is rename the drive letter/s/. I do not remember how to do that by heart (on a MAC at work right now) but if you do a search for 'drive rename pr drive letter' it should come up with the instructions.

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I agree with Zeus. CS will work too if you have an 80-pin Ultra DMA cable.

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I did jumper the old HDD to CS (cable select) and tried that but it did not work. I did not try to jumper both HDD to CS.
How do I know if I have an 80 pin Ultra DMA cable?
Currently the HDD cable is I think yellow and there is room for one more HDD. Is the other IDE slot used for the floppy and DVD drive?

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rene

Some puters won't acept CS, so set it to primary slave.

A UDMA cable has 80 wires instead of 40. Here's a pic (80 on top, 40 below):



If you use CS, both drives must be set to this. The top drive will be the master, the middle one the slave. If it is a UDMA cable, you will likely have to use CS as the jumper setting. Try hooking both HDDs to the same cable and setting both jumpers to CS.

If this doesn't work, try keeping the drives on the same place on the cable and set the top one to master and the middle one to slave.

One of the two IDE slots on your motherboard is for your HDDs (the first one generally) and the other is for any media drives - CD/DVD ROMs.

Floppy drives have their own little slot. Bad pun, I know...

Anyway, try moving the jumpers. I am almost certain this is your problem.

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What you need to do is set the jumper setting on the primary drive to master. (This would be the 80gig that came in the computer.) Then the 30 gig drive you jumper to your slave drive. Cable select SHOULD only be used when running one hard drive. Someone has told me that cable select means that the one drive connected will funtion faster.

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it's automatic.

Oops... Forgot. You also need to go to your basic bios options and select auto under drive type for primary and secondary drive. The 80 gig model should appear under primary if you configured it correctly. The 30 gig should appear as the secondary drive if all is well.

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it's automatic.

Cable select means just that - the cable's physical structure automatically selects the HDD order by making the middle-connected HDD the slave and the top, or end-connected HDD the master drive.

CS is not any faster, it's just that cable select is used with UDMA cables and UDMA runs much faster than the older, non-UDMA cables.

Newest HDDs use SATA connectors, which don't look like flat ribbons at all, but I'm guessing you don't have a SATA system.

Since your system is new, I'm assuming the BIOS has UDMA enabled and it should also automatically detect all your IDE devices by default.

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