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Old 10-16-2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Walrus
I feel we, as users, are responsible for our own back-ups. If there is a thread you are following, simply save it to your hard drive. Each time I see a thread in a forum that is of particular interest to me, I simply save it. Had I saved any one thread from mshop, I would be glad to supply it to the owner/moderator; however, I looked and I have not save a thread from mshop, SL forum in a long time...

Oh, for those who do not know how... Using IE, for example, open the thread, then click on your file menu and then click on "save as". Designate a folder and save. The html will be saved, along with a folder of the same name. The folder will have all the .gif, jpeg, etc files located in it.
If you "save as" "web page complete"... its all inclusive in a single file..you have do do each page and mane that folder what the thread was called.

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Old 10-16-2005, 06:13 PM
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...I just wonder what's going to happen when all of us seasoned professionals retire and the teenagers take over.
I would be careful what you say there...

...there are intelligent individuals being born everyday immersed in the world of technology that the "seasoned professionals" learned. The past has its place but so does the future.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Botnst
You guys give me the creeps.

My office is switching from film photography and optical analysis to totally digital. Several of you gave me some excellent advice, especially Lebenz and I think Suginami(?), which really helped guide our plans. So we've spent about $80K on network storage and server upgrades. That was supposed to bridge us for a year or so. Then we get these two damned hurricanes and we have 14 terabytes(!!!) of new imagery that we have to store and serve. WTF am I going to do with that?! We got 3 more (I think) T1 lines to serve the data and we've been buying terabyte bricks like, well, bricks, in order to send and receive data from across the country (and into the next cubicle). Worse, now I get to worry about losing it if I don't plan to spend an enormous amount of money on storage.

OMG.

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Have you ever heard of eVault? They essentially backup your data over the internet to a remote site they maintain. If a restore is needed, they perform it from their end as well. No fuss, no muss for you.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:26 AM
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I've been making money with microcomputers for 30+ years, and I've learned:

0. When possible, downtime makes backups and restoration of those backups much easier. Does this system, for example, REALLY need to run 24/7? Everyone seems to make 24/7 a requirement these days, even if it is completely unwarranted. If people understood what truly reliable 24/7 operation cost over 23/7, they might think differently.

1. Trust NO backup until you see, _with your own eyes_, a disaster recovery/restoration drill, timed, and the end result tested.

2. Explain to management the relationship between backup techniques, money, and time. Less time to recover = more money, with zero restoration time (i.e., failover) costing the most. Generally, you get what you pay for. Except for when the installation of a $15,000 (1997) DDR robot tape backup system by an $80/hr consultant idiot destroyed an Oracle database containing about 10,000 man hours of data that I was managing and backing up fine all by myself to CD before this happened (file by file backups of a live Oracle database not running in archive mode=very bad idea).

3. For REALLY important backups, use two completely different systems and technologies, and store the results of at least one offsite. Extensive logging,_MONITORING_, and random QA of the backups is CRITICAL.

4. "RAID" is NOT a "magic bullet" that makes systems invulnerable. I've seen RAID controllers fail and spew garbage over every drive. I've also seen bad SCSI drivers corrupt drives, and the data faithfully replicated by the perfectly functioning RAID. I've seen a $20.00 CPU fan fail, the CPU overheated, and then it proceeded to emit chunks onto files stored on the six-figure SAN that it was connected to.

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