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mzsmbs · #16 11-29-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T.

I always heard that those Ruger 10/22's were good but I'd like a bolt action rifle.

that's an excellent first gun. light, cheap and accurate. have fun.

R Leo · #17 11-29-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by diametricalbenz

Are they still importing these? Who is the importer? I first saw one in American Rifleman and I have been occasionally looking for one but I haven't seen one in CA. I know they're not banned but then again few people are looking for Biathlon or Match type rifles......except me of course.

The receiver is stamped "Kalashnikov USA" and I assume that's the importer. I've had mine about 6 years now and, because of the nature of the beast, no telling how long it sat on the shelf at the local pistol shop.

I dig the wacky thing. It's a waaay better shot than I am too.

boneheaddoctor · #18 11-29-2005, 03:30 PM

I've Got a 1924 Yugoslavian 8mm Mauser all original just missing the original cleaning rod and bayonet....fire 10+ rounds without a shoulder pad adn it will bruise your shoulder...when firing 190 grain Norma ammunition anyway...Thats what I used Deer hunting.

TheDon · #19 11-29-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leo

Izmash CM-2, bolt action single shot .22, ~$385. Every bit as accurate as that Anschutz match rifle at a fraction of the price.

My suggestion would be to buy a Ruger 10-22 or whatever the Marlin/Savage quivalent would be.

i use the same rifle like that.. the german brand for ROTC rifle team.. but it sucks.. uses compressed air.. i want real fire power!

great for prone firing but once your standing or kneeling the short barrel leaves for alot of swaying if you dont have perfect balance

R Leo · #20 11-29-2005, 03:41 PM

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but it sucks.. uses compressed air..

Doncha mean it BLOWS?

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great for prone firing but once your standing or kneeling the short barrel leaves for alot of swaying if you dont have perfect balance

??? I don't understand you, the barrel on this rifle is so damned long it's an effective silencer; you practically need a crane to hold it up!!

TheDon · #21 11-29-2005, 03:45 PM

mine is a short barrel version i guess compared to the other rifles we have...

and of course it blows

Botnst · #22 11-29-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MedMech

Get a 22 mag or .17 HMR they are widely available in bolt action and very accurate @ 100 yds. They are perfect for teaching yourself the fundementals or if you wnat something with some umph get a .223 in whatever Bold action you want.

Beginners shouldn't have autos IMO.

Learn care and feeding of a weapon that can kill a man from a bolt action .22. They're inexpensive to buy and the ammunition is cheap. You can shoot thousands of rounds and face bankruptcy, yet learn the same important lessons of safety (FIRST) and marksmanship (SECOND) and maintenance (THIRD) as you can with any other weapon.

My personal 4 rules of gun ownership.

Never point your weapon, loaded or unloaded, at an object you don't want dead. Even (or especially) accidentally.

Never point a weapon at a person you don't fully intend to kill, whatever the reprecussions. Even accidentally.

Never kill any animal that isn't a threat, unless you intend to eat it.

Don't pull the trigger until you are sure you can live with the results.

A corallary: I have known a few men (and one woman) who regarded a weapon pointed at them as an immediate threat and would react to the occassion. Don't piss these folks off by being a fool with a weapon. It is you ass.

Bot

moparmike · #23 11-30-2005, 05:21 AM

Pick up a Russian .22lr bolt-action trainer at your local gunmonger. I have one, and picked mine up in AR for about $120. With irons and my minor flinch, I can keep all the bullets on a half dollar at 25yds, and I can barely see the target. I am thinking of scoping it, as I know I can get about 3 times the accuracy if I can see what the hell i am doing. I can send a tin can down the road forever with irons, which is all you really need it to do to get you started on the road to enjoying firearms and gaining proficiency with them.

If you have anymore questions about firearms, go to www.thehighroad.org . I post there often, and these guys are some of the most knowledgeable and respectable people you will ever meet. You won't regret perusing that site. Tell'em MoparMike sent you.

boneheaddoctor · #24 11-30-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Learn care and feeding of a weapon that can kill a man from a bolt action .22. They're inexpensive to buy and the ammunition is cheap. You can shoot thousands of rounds and face bankruptcy, yet learn the same important lessons of safety (FIRST) and marksmanship (SECOND) and maintenance (THIRD) as you can with any other weapon.

My personal 4 rules of gun ownership.

Never point your weapon, loaded or unloaded, at an object you don't want dead. Even (or especially) accidentally.

Never point a weapon at a person you don't fully intend to kill, whatever the reprecussions. Even accidentally.

Never kill any animal that isn't a threat, unless you intend to eat it.

Don't pull the trigger until you are sure you can live with the results.

A corallary: I have known a few men (and one woman) who regarded a weapon pointed at them as an immediate threat and would react to the occassion. Don't piss these folks off by being a fool with a weapon. It is you ass.

Bot

well said...

cscmc1 · #25 11-30-2005, 09:18 AM

The CMP has some nifty target .22s: http://www.civilianmarksmanshipprogram.org/Services/Rifles/caliber22.htm

Harrington & Richardson M12
Mossberg Model 144US
KIMBER Model 82 .22LR

The Winchester 52D's are sold out...

NKowi · #26 11-30-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ara T.

Now that I'm 18 (have been for about 4 months now) I can buy a rifle. Yes, they let us buy rifles in California, ya just have to wait 10 days after you make your purchase to go get your gun

I've never fired a gun before and figure it would be wise to go to a range or something and try some out before buying anything. I doubt I'll ever hunt, this is mostly for target shooting. But, for future reference...

Im wondering what a good rifle would be to start off with... I'd rather not have a .22. I was always interested in German stuff, go figure... so Mauser K98's, but I wonder if 8mm would be too much to handle for a newbie... well I'm not a skinny lil guy, im ~185 lbs, and my upper body anatomy is wider/broader than your average joe. I know those SKS's are always pretty cheap at sporting goods stores. Aside from that I'm pretty much in the dark here. I know a lot of you guys know your guns, so I could use some advice here.

The Marines are still Looking For a Few Good Men. You won't be a newbie for long.

gottheMBZbug · #27 11-30-2005, 10:28 AM

Plenty of excellent advice here, beginning with safety.

.22 match rifles are great for working on precision and accuracy, style -- all inexpensively.

A step-up to bolt-action .223, I am confident, would meet your needs for years to come and not disappoint you. Consider a bolt-action, stainless steel, with a bull barrel. The .223 round is extremely easy to find, generally inexpensive, easy to reload, and there are plenty of "fun" rounds available. If you don't want a bolt-action, then consider a Mini-14 Ranch Rifle (infamously wielded by the ridiculous A-Team), which can be durable & provide surprisingly accurate results, and has many accessories available.

I have from .22 up to a 300 Win Mag and enjoy them all. While I've not personally confirmed this (though it does seem plausible), the issues with the larger calibers, beyond cost in shooting, includes them stopping your heart for an instant every time you fire them. Myth? I don't know. Obviously this is not yet an issue for a great many shooters, but is still something to be considered.

Whatever you get, always clean it well and take the time to learn how to shoot it correctly from the get go.

Jim Anderson · #28 11-30-2005, 11:47 AM

Something else: get a gun small enough not to need ear protection.

Another rule
Don't pull the trigger to see if the gun is loaded

300EVIL · #29 11-30-2005, 02:07 PM

If you can afford it.......
http://www.hatchergun.com/NFA/Styer_AUG.JPG
The Steyr AUG is an awesome German made rifle. I loved mine!
I also have a .22 Anschutz. It's one danm accurate target rifle.