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CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SECRET SEARCH ON AMERICANS -- WITHOUT COURT ORDER

CARTER EXECUTIVE ORDER: 'ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE' WITHOUT COURT ORDER

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order"

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order."

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

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Funny how the left wingers are suffering selective amnesia. Particularly the "Know it all" types like Charlie7 etc.........

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Well, that settles it. Multiple wrongs (although bone's claims/sources are always, always, always quite dubious) do make a right. Sins of previous presidents are clear justification for Wubbya's alleged actions.

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That’s flatly false. The Clinton administration program, code-named Echelon, complied with FISA. Before any conversations of U.S. persons were targeted, a FISA warrant was obtained. CIA director George Tenet testified to this before Congress on 4/12/00:

I’m here today to discuss specific issues about and allegations regarding Signals Intelligence activities and the so-called Echelon Program of the National Security Agency…

There is a rigorous regime of checks and balances which we, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the FBI scrupulously adhere to whenever conversations of U.S. persons are involved, whether directly or indirectly. We do not collect against U.S. persons unless they are agents of a foreign power as that term is defined in the law. We do not target their conversations for collection in the United States unless a FISA warrant has been obtained from the FISA court by the Justice Department.

Read and weep BDB!!

SO PROVE IT! rather than rant patently false information put forth by the DNC.....


WHAT LAW WAS violated.....and show proof how a president does not have that autority in time of war.....when its been proven they do....and what do the Democrat have to hide? Are they in League with AlQueda?

WHere is the cry for an investigation of leaks of goverment secrets during a time of war.....the left wingers care more about AlQueda and its supporters than they do for US law and US citizens.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Look BDB obviously FISA is the law. Ok. Now, you may or may not know of this law. Which basically says that, yes the POTUS can order a suspects phone to be tapped in a time of war. PROVIDING, that within 72 hours of the wire tap, a showing is made to the FISA Court and then the Court will issue a wire tap.
Ok, now I know this is hard to grasp, but W can't just order this on his own and not get the Courts approval. He's not a King.

what proof do you have procedures were not followed? Outside of any left wing organisations comments that is. And during a time of war the President does have sweeping powers that bush haters just throw fits over....

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
pull your head out of the sand...........and open your eyes....

YOU made the assertion it was illegal....so prove it? What law was violated? Can you present any proof whatsoever the president does not have that autority in time of war?

See my earlier post as to why the above is false.

I think you are posting truthful information but not the whole truth.

The gov can listen to foreign calls without a court order. I mean, we can legally eavesdrop on Chirac's boyfriend's phone if we want, no court order needed.

Also, we can listen, without court order to a foriegn national in the USA talk to a foriegn phone number.

The grey area is when the a US citizen is on the line with a foreigner and one of them is outside of the USA. The Ames case asserted that it was legal without a court order since Ames was presumed to be in contact with a foriegn power, regardless of who was actually on the other phone.

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