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cmac2012 08-03-2006 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB
OK, big shot, you want to be publicly humiliated, that is fine.

So here it goes.

Come on down whenever you want.

You throw the first punch.

But you better make it your best punch and here is why.

1. Anything that happens after you throw your first punch is considered self-defense. And escalation is OK. Remember the hezbo-thugs killing 8 Israeli soldiers and then Israel retaliated with massive air strikes. There is more than just a little bit of Jew in me pal. So you better make sure I can't get up after your first punch...ever. Because if I get up...

2. So assuming that you can lay me down with your first punch, then consider the following. My estate has explicit instructions to pursue anyone who injures me. Many of my associates are Jewish and are also lawyers. You know what they say about Jewish lawyers. These guys can be ruthless--they are also fearless. You better start hiding your assets.

Since you decided to make this personal with your continued taunts and by directly quoting me (even though I have you on ignore) you should also know this.

You don't get to survive in a foreign country, not knowing the language and not having two pennies to rub together, by being a wimp. I don't play for sport pal. That is for rich people who have the time and the inclination. Plus playing just for sport is boring.

I play to win. And if you know immigrants, like you say you do, then you know exactly what I mean.

Comprende?

Now go back to your effete, trite, pompous postings.

Come on down whenever you want. I am easy to find.

But be careful what you seek, you may find it and not like the results.

Dude, would you get a grip? I'm not talking on the street. In a ring. With people watching. Ready to pull whoever is badder off the other one. So you found your courage, eh? Sounds good. I'll be in touch. I have to wonder if all this talk about your lawyer buddies means this is just more BS. You go to a fight club, you don't have that kind of onus on what you do.

BTW, MY continued taunts? Are you aware of what you do? I didn't even bring this up til about the 10th or 12th time you went into a long, involved discussion of my testosterone deficiency and the symptoms of that. Holy crap, you went below the belt and personal from practically your very first post to me. And if you think I have any interest in doing you serious, disabling harm, you're more whacked than I thought. Gentlemen don't do that unless there are serious, life and death stakes on the line.

cmac2012 08-03-2006 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kamil
Crap, is this a record for a thread to go almost 1000 POSTS without getting locked?

lol

Kamil, you the man dude. I don't know if Hattie and Zeus are kicking back or what, but this thing was getting nasty a long time ago and it wasn't closed. Who knows...

aklim 08-03-2006 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
Kamil, you the man dude. I don't know if Hattie and Zeus are kicking back or what, but this thing was getting nasty a long time ago and it wasn't closed. Who knows...

It was temporarily.

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 08:27 AM

I told you before...I don't play for sport. That's for pendejos.

I play for reals and I play to win.

Look me up.

But be careful what you seek.

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
Dude, would you get a grip? I'm not talking on the street. In a ring. With people watching. Ready to pull whoever is badder off the other one. So you found your courage, eh? Sounds good. I'll be in touch. I have to wonder if all this talk about your lawyer buddies means this is just more BS. You go to a fight club, you don't have that kind of onus on what you do.

BTW, MY continued taunts? Are you aware of what you do? I didn't even bring this up til about the 10th or 12th time you went into a long, involved discussion of my testosterone deficiency and the symptoms of that. Holy crap, you went below the belt and personal from practically your very first post to me. And if you think I have any interest in doing you serious, disabling harm, you're more whacked than I thought. Gentlemen don't do that unless there are serious, life and death stakes on the line.


He doesn't get it. But I'd him to tell us more about what they say about "Jewish Lawyers" -- or that there is "More than a little Jew in me" -- Not that he's trying to paint a group with a wide brush? Nah.

Painting an entire group with a wide brush -- well, oh, my -- that would be, yup you guessed it.

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
Kamil, you the man dude. I don't know if Hattie and Zeus are kicking back or what, but this thing was getting nasty a long time ago and it wasn't closed. Who knows...

It's going to get locked shortly. I'm certain. When things get to physical threats (funny that an Israel Supporter made them! - They are peace loving people!) things usually get locked-down.

Oh Well... good run!

Botnst 08-03-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
I've told you more than once that I believe the Forum would be a much poorer place w/o you. I respect a good 60 to 70% of your opinions. Here it comes....HOWEVER, there are times when you display just a tiny bit of imperiousness that, IMHO, detracts from the overall effectiveness of your thinking. Many times you responded to something of mine with variations on "His honor, the divine cyclops" (the one I remember the best, I didn't keep a list of occasions of my wounded pride to display). Around that time, I started with some jibes that went along the lines of "Master of all that is knowable," or "Divine Keeper of the Sacred Truths."

It's slightly amazing to me that you're apparently unaware of the insults you throw out but are accutely aware of me referring to you as Botsenhammer. At no point in our jousting did I make any personal attacks, and I certainly never challenged your manhood or implied that you lacked testicles or that they could not produce sufficient testosterone.

Our buddy seems to think that making rude comments on the web that I seriously doubt he would have the moxie to make in person somehow marks him as a tough guy.

Here's a rule of thumb on web courtesy from that obnoxious know it all cmac. If a remark you're about to type is one you would say in person if the guy looked like Woody Allen, but would not say if the guy looked like Lennox Lewis, there's not a lot of courage involved in posting it on a forum.

Perhaps he has long experience, in his position as a prosecutor, of facing down some bad guy, saying something like, "Mr. Smith, clearly you are the scum of the earth, and this court will find you guilty and tie you up like a goat and throw away the knot." This with a judge, bailiff, several armed officers, and a few dozen witnesses backing him up.

Yes, I challenged him to a supervised, manly contest in order to give him the chance to see if his cojones function as well as he thinks they do when matched next to some hippie from Berkeley who just happens to be older than him, best I can tell. He tacitly accepted, and I will hold him to that, in a few months, if he has the stones, that is. I hope the boy is getting in shape. I want this to be fair.

All the best,

pusillanimous effete hemp weaver, or

effete, pusillanimous and cojones-less

If it pi$$es you off then do what I did and keep a list. It's kind of fun to pull it along like a wrack of estuarine detritus. Eventually you'll get tired of lugging it (maybe) and then you'll dump it.

You are correct that in almost all cases we see just as Jesus analogized: the mote in our brother's eye but not the log in our own. That includes everybody.

Also as the evening wears on it seems that the alcohol kicks in. I know that is occaissionaly the case with me. I remember one time in '03 or '04 when after a long night of back and forth I wrote a lengthy and extremely brilliant (at least I must have thought so when I wrote it) response to something Jim Smith had posted. The next day when I logged on he had posted a message asking me (basicly) WTF does that mean? I read it, about 3 long paragraphs, and I had to admit that I didn't have a clue what I had written. It was embarrassing to me, but I think Jim got a kick out of me admitting it.

MTUpower 08-03-2006 08:52 AM

You guys and this testo test is funny. Must be a california small dog yapping thing.
And my lawyers will beat up your lawyers:blush: Yea immigrants are tough... just ask all the Guatamalans who get their ass handed to them on a regular basis here in SF.


But if you want to fight you better watch out... I know Panamanian judo....




Judo don know if I have a knife...






Judo don know if I have a gun...

MTUpower 08-03-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
He doesn't get it. But I'd him to tell us more about what they say about "Jewish Lawyers" -- or that there is "More than a little Jew in me" -- Not that he's trying to paint a group with a wide brush? Nah.

Painting an entire group with a wide brush -- well, oh, my -- that would be, yup you guessed it.

As they say on TV- GOOD CALL!

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
He doesn't get it. But I'd him to tell us more about what they say about "Jewish Lawyers" -- or that there is "More than a little Jew in me" -- Not that he's trying to paint a group with a wide brush? Nah.

Painting an entire group with a wide brush -- well, oh, my -- that would be, yup you guessed it.

You still haven't given me your parents' e-mail address.

I have that web-guard program that I want tos end them so they can monitor your computer use.

You shouldn't be playing with the big boys.

I don't have to explain anything to you...

But since you asked, I wouldn't want to let your puerile curiosity go unanswered.

1. Jewish lawyers have a reputation for being aggressive, thorough, well-prepared, tough, accomplished, successful, tough in the courtroom, but fair and fun to work with--even when they are on the opposite side. They are honest, but will do what is necessary to win for their clients. As a group they are the best lawyers that I've worked with. Many years ago, (in the not too distant past) when Jews were widely discriminated against by the big, silk-stocking, lilly-white law firms, Jewish lawyers had to fight and scrape against the "establishment" and make their own way. Doing so honed their legal skills. (Incidentally, this gives the lie to those who claim that the Jews run our government...Hitler and Stalin made the same comments in support of their hatred and persecution of Jews). Not all jewish lawyers are great or even good...many are just schlepping around, trying to make ends meet. The overwhelming majority are, however. And when it comes to handling my personal, legal matters, I have a friend, who also happens to be Jewish, handle them. My CPA, however, is Irish, so go figure.

2. The comment that I have more than a little of Jew in me refers to several things. First I have deep admirationa nd respect for Jews. Having been displaced from my country I have a great deal of respect and admiration for people who were also once displaced from their homeland. I admire their industry, their hard work, their emphasis on education. My first law partner, when I went solo, was (is) Jewish. From him I learned a lot about the practice of law and I learned a lot about being a good trial lawyer. I suspect, that many, many, many years ago my family may have been Jewish in Spain, forced to convert to Catholicism to avoid the fate of many Jews in "old" Europe. These are just of the reasons why I say that I have more than a "little Jew" in me.

You see, I have no problems explaining myself.

You still have not explained your hatred for Jews and you have not identified your ethnic origins.

But don;t worry, you don't have to. Your hatred of Jews (and it is not just me who has picked up on it) is so transparent, so vicious, so full of bile that you don;t need to explain where you come from. Just knowing where you are and where you are headed should be enough.

MTUpower 08-03-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB
You still haven't given me your parents' e-mail address.

I have that web-guard program that I want tos end them so they can monitor your computer use.

You shouldn't be playing with the big boys.

I don't have to explain anything to you...

But since you asked, I wouldn't want to let your puerile curiosity go unanswered.

1. Jewish lawyers have a reputation for being aggressive, thorough, well-prepared, tough, accomplished, successful, tough in the courtroom, but fair and fun to work with--even when they are on the opposite side. They are honest, but will do what is necessary to win for their clients. As a group they are the best lawyers that I've worked with. Many years ago, (in the not too distant past) when Jews were widely discriminated against by the big, silk-stocking, lilly-white law firms, Jewish lawyers had to fight and scrape against the "establishment" and make their own way. Doing so honed their legal skills. (Incidentally, this gives the lie to those who claim that the Jews run our government...Hitler and Stalin made the same comments in support of their hatred and persecution of Jews). Not all jewish lawyers are great or even good...many are just schlepping around, trying to make ends meet. The overwhelming majority are, however. And when it comes to handling my personal, legal matters, I have a friend, who also happens to be Jewish, handle them. My CPA, however, is Irish, so go figure.

2. The comment that I have more than a little of Jew in me refers to several things. First I have deep admirationa nd respect for Jews. Having been displaced from my country I have a great deal of respect and admiration for people who were also once displaced from their homeland. I admire their industry, their hard work, their emphasis on education. My first law partner, when I went solo, was (is) Jewish. From him I learned a lot about the practice of law and I learned a lot about being a good trial lawyer. I suspect, that many, many, many years ago my family may have been Jewish in Spain, forced to convert to Catholicism to avoid the fate of many Jews in "old" Europe. These are just of the reasons why I say that I have more than a "little Jew" in me.

You see, I have no problems explaining myself.

You still have not explained your hatred for Jews and you have not identified your ethnic origins.

But don;t worry, you don't have to. Your hatred of Jews (and it is not just me who has picked up on it) is so transparent, so vicious, so full of bile that you don;t need to explain where you come from. Just knowing where you are and where you are headed should be enough.

Great answer on the wide brush (bigotry) accusation. With this logic I bet you (or anyone!) can ask a judge or someone you are suing if your opponents lawyer is jewish.

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower
Great answer on the wide brush (bigotry) accusation. With this logic I bet you (or anyone!) can ask a judge or someone you are suing if your opponents lawyer is jewish.

That comment is just as confusing as your translation of Spanish phrases. :wacko:

Carleton Hughes 08-03-2006 09:20 AM

Oh,let's have a little lieder,I'm sure some here can sing along...

http://www.anesi.com/east/horstw.wav

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower
Great answer on the wide brush (bigotry) accusation. With this logic I bet you (or anyone!) can ask a judge or someone you are suing if your opponents lawyer is jewish.


This guy jumped in the hole and then dug it deeper.

I have to go now... I want to ask my mommy and daddy for money so I can buy him a shirt that says, "Got Stereotype?"

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
This guy jumped in the hole and then dug it deeper.

I have to go now... I want to ask my mommy and daddy for money so I can buy him a shirt that says, "Got Stereotype?"

I think that you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

If you bothered to read my post, you will see that my comment about Jewish lawyers being very good lawyers was made based upon my own personal experience. You, on the other hand, have made generalizations about Israel and about its people. Your comments, such as "animals" and "babby killers" are broad, gross generalizations.

I am not a big fan of Wikipedia, but here is a definition of "stereotype" that even you may understand.

Stereotypes are considered to be a group concept, held by one social group about another. They are often used in a negative or prejudicial sense and are frequently used to justify certain discriminatory behaviors. More benignly, they may express sometimes-accurate folk wisdom about social reality.

Often a stereotype is a negative caricature or inversion of some positive characteristic possessed by members of a group, exaggerated to the point where it becomes repulsive or ridiculous.

Stereotype production is based on:

Simplification
Exaggeration or distortion
Generalization
Presentation of cultural attributes as being 'natural'.

Stereotypes are seen by many as undesirable beliefs which can be changed through education and/or familiarization. However, stereotypes need not be confined to negative characterizations about individuals or groups, and can thus have positive characterizations.

There are also genuinely positive stereotypes about groups. Some groups have, as a deliberate political strategy, tried to evolve new genuine positive stereotypes for themselves.


After you read the above try and see into which group your repeated comments about Jews and Israel fall...and in which group my comments about Jewish lawyers (based on direct, personal experience) fall.

I also have a t-shirt for you.

It has a swastika on the front and on the back it reads: "GOT HATE?"

After your anti-Israel, anti-jewish, anti-gay comments I think it would fit in perfectly.

Give me your adress so I can mail it to you...

Have a nice day and say hi to your mommy and daddy. If you are a good boy maybe they will buy you a new car too and you will spend more time driving and less time hating.

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes
Oh,let's have a little lieder,I'm sure some here can sing along...

http://www.anesi.com/east/horstw.wav

:D

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 09:41 AM

Yeah right. Nice try to back-pedal.

Stereotyping Bigot.

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 09:42 AM

Did this anal cap just say that *I* said something against gay people?

Now that ***WOULD*** be funny.

BENZ-LGB 08-03-2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
Did this anal cap just say that *I* said something against gay people?

Now that ***WOULD*** be funny.

Do you really kiss your mommy with THAT mouth...

GottaDiesel 08-03-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB
Do you really kiss your mommy with THATmouth...

I weep for your generation...


You should weep for us. Some would argue it is your generation that allowed things to become like they are.

raymr 08-03-2006 10:58 AM

So whatever happened to the roadmap to Middle East peace? No longer Flavor of the Month?

Zeus 08-03-2006 11:43 AM

Wow...just got back from vacation to this? Must be the heat.

If the topic - which is fine - warrants another new thread, please leave out the baiting, personal attacks and challenges to lace up and get in the ring.


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