What's up with Israel attacking everybody? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

kamil · #1 07-13-2006, 01:20 AM

Well, they first started with an attack on Palestine and now they are destroying Lebanon. How come these countries don't have armies to defend themselves? Can someone enlighten me on this topic, it's getting a bit interesting in the Middle East so I might as well get some info from you guys. I don't know how you guys feel about this topic but I'm on Israel's side (I'm not Jewish either) because I'm not too fond of terrorists that come out of those other countries.

Some questions that I need answered:
Has Israel done this before?
Will they attack more countries?
How come the countries that are being attacked don't have allies nor armies?

Thanks

420SEL · #2 07-13-2006, 08:00 AM

For starters, Palestine is not a country. Palestine refers to an overall geogrpahic area that is now divided between Israel, Egypt, Syria and Jordan.

Botnst · #3 07-13-2006, 08:39 AM

It started when a daddy had a child with his wife and another woman on the side. The wife forced the husband to kick the other woman out and bastard out. It's been down hill ever since.

Bot

BENZ-LGB · #4 07-13-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It started when a daddy had a child with his wife and another woman on the side. The wife forced the husband to kick the other woman out and bastard out. It's been down hill ever since.

Bot

Oh Bot, you and your obscure Biblical references.

Everything was just honkey-dorey until Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier...then Hezbollah (sp?) just had to get into the act.

Neithr Hamas nor Hez appears to give a damn about what happenes to the innocent civilians that have to live where they (H&H) hide. It is almost as if they somehow like it when Israel unleashes all mighty hell on them.

Don't want to get your ass kicked by Israel?

Then leave the Jews alone.

After what happened in WWII, no Jew is ever going to let another nation, or group of people, kill Jews with impunity.

Incidentally, and to no one's surprise, the anti-Semitic Russian and French governments came out attacking Israel. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Damn the French and Russian bastards!!!

dave_rose69 · #5 07-29-2006, 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=BENZ-LGB]Oh Bot, you and your obscure Biblical references.

Everything was just honkey-dorey until Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier...then Hezbollah (sp?) just had to get into the act.

Thats exactly right! The Israeli Govt has strained to give the Palestinians their fair share in recent years, but the extremists still have their damned gripes. The Hezbollah obviously didnt figure on Israels military excellence, after all, do the Hezbollah use geocentric orbiting sattellites to guide their laser and telemetry guided munitions to within 6 feet of their targets? The Hezbollah are launching missiles at nothern Israel that have the same compairable guidance system as a one penny bottle rocket. They dont even have an old Piper Cub to get into the air. They were finished even before they started. In a few more days, there wont be a single weapon left for those fruitcakes to fire at Israel. Its a terrible shame too, the innocent civilians of Lebanon are paying a terrible price for all of this, maybe next time, Hamas and the Hezbollah should try asking the U.N. and Israel, nicely for what they need or want, and maybe they might be surprised on how diplomacy might be their secret key to success.....

aklim · #6 07-29-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_rose69

Its a terrible shame too, the innocent civilians of Lebanon are paying a terrible price for all of this, maybe next time, Hamas and the Hezbollah should try asking the U.N. and Israel, nicely for what they need or want, and maybe they might be surprised on how diplomacy might be their secret key to success.....

What innocent people in Lebanon? You mean the ones that allowed Hezbollh to come in? Or were you talking about the ones that made them part of the government? Or the ones that they were supposed to disarm but looked the other way and did the above instead?

In my book, that makes you a part of the fight. I don't look at the person and say "Oh, you don't have a rifle so you are not fighting. You are innocent.". You knowlngly give directions to a bomber and you are just as bad as him. You give him money and you are of the same ilk. No, they are not innocent. They are just as guilty. Right or wrong is another issue here. What is at hand is that they have made themselves part of the fight and if it turns, so be it. If we are targeted because we gave aid to Isreal and that makes us guilty, it makes Lebanon just as guilty as Hezbollah and Iran and Syria.

peragro · #7 07-29-2006, 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=dave_rose69]

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Its a terrible shame too, the innocent civilians of Lebanon are paying a terrible price for all of this, maybe next time, Hamas and the Hezbollah should try asking the U.N. and Israel, nicely for what they need or want, and maybe they might be surprised on how diplomacy might be their secret key to success.....

I think we wouldn't be surprised at what diplomacy would bring but it's a non-starter to begin with. Even the harshest of diplomatic solutions isn't going to involve the eradication of Israel and the jewish people. This is why Hamas and Hezbollah will not diplomatically negotiate or will quickly break whatever agreements are negotiated. Their goal is the eradication of Israel and Judaism. It's really very simple.

raymr · #8 07-13-2006, 08:40 AM

Its the Holy Land and everyone wants it for their own. Arabs far outnumber the Jews, but Israel has greater fire power. If the Arabs consolidate and develop/obtain advanced weaponry, look out.

Mistress · #9 07-13-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kamil

Well, they first started with an attack on Palestine and now they are destroying Lebanon. How come these countries don't have armies to defend themselves? Can someone enlighten me on this topic, it's getting a bit interesting in the Middle East so I might as well get some info from you guys. I don't know how you guys feel about this topic but I'm on Israel's side (I'm not Jewish either) because I'm not too fond of terrorists that come out of those other countries.

Some questions that I need answered:
Has Israel done this before?
Will they attack more countries?
How come the countries that are being attacked don't have allies nor armies?

Thanks

I beg your pardon, but back in the 70's Isreal fought and won a war in 7 days. That was after they let the women join. Who they were fighting escapes my brain, the housekeeper hasn't been in to dust in awhile.

cmac2012 · #10 07-13-2006, 02:01 PM

It's a tough one all right. The Jews responses are apparently geared to teaching the other side a lesson, and vicey versa. No one pays attention to the "lesson" for a second. Instead, they ratchet up their outrage.

I've heard Arabs on the radio say that many of the Palestinian youth that Israel holds in jail have no blood on their hands. Arriving at the truth of that would be damn near impossible.

The inescapable bottom line for me is that the region has way more people now than it can support. The Dead Sea is drying up because of all the irrigation water pulled out upstream. With it will go massive tourist dollars.

Unemployment in Arab lands is way high. Most of the Arabs evolved from years of tribal fighting in harsh conditions. I suspect "forged in a fiery furnace" is not inaccurate.

I think I'll be looking at roughly the same stuff while on my deathbed.

John Doe · #11 07-13-2006, 02:03 PM

Use the search function and read the other 10K threads on the subject for more.......

cmac2012 · #12 07-13-2006, 02:19 PM

That'd be a fun way to spend an afternoon, eh?

BENZ-LGB · #13 07-13-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Siduri19

I beg your pardon, but back in the 70's Isreal fought and won a war in 7 days. That was after they let the women join. Who they were fighting escapes my brain, the housekeeper hasn't been in to dust in awhile.

I worked with a lawyer for a while. She had dual citizenship and had served in the Israeli Army.

She was one tough cookie.

The Seven Day War...Egypt, Syria, Jordan and the rest of the usual suspects ganged up on Israel.

They got their ass kicked for their troubles...and Israel showed the superiority of American made weapons over the Russian and French made garbage the other guys were using.

WANT '71 280SEL · #14 07-13-2006, 02:41 PM

Israel attacks people after being provoked. From what I understand about the Lebanese invasion is that a terrorist group, not HAMAS, but the other big one over there kidnapped two Israeli soldiers then fled to Lebanon. I believe the terrorist group has strong power in the government or there is some connection between the terrorist group and the Lebanese.

The reason everyone attacks Israel is because they are Jewish and the so called Palestinians believe that the only good Jew is a dead Jew, thus the reason they go into cafes and blow up innocent civilians. The extremist Muslims believe that Israel should be destroyed at all costs, that is why the Muslim countries have attacked Israel several times.

That is a very brief and round-about lesson in Israeli-Middle Eastern relations.

Thanks
David

BENZ-LGB · #15 07-13-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL

The reason everyone attacks Israel is because they are Jewish and the so called Palestinians believe that the only good Jew is a dead Jew, thus the reason they go into cafes and blow up innocent civilians. The extremist Muslims believe that Israel should be destroyed at all costs, that is why the Muslim countries have attacked Israel several times.

Exactly...and they attack us (the US) because we support Israel. To them we are all the same.