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Old 09-13-2006, 01:34 PM
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It's better than using bullets or fire hoses.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:38 PM
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It's better than using bullets or fire hoses.
But it could melt the chocotale bar in my pocket.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:48 PM
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For God's sake! Just don't carry any popcorn in your pockets - imagine the carnage...
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:51 PM
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But it could melt the chocotale bar in my pocket.
with or without nuts?
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:02 PM
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with or without nuts?
ALWAYS with nuts.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:57 PM
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But it could melt the chocotale bar in my pocket.
Not Hershey's. They are wrapped in aluminum foil, and the microwaves will bounce off and roast some other part of your body.

If you are part of a crowd of protestors, and you know such weapons will be in use, protest signs could be made with aluminum foil cores, to reflect the energy back to the source (or anywhere else for that matter).

Overall, I like the whole concept of non-lethal weapons, though I think sonic/ultrasonic devices would be more effective.

Regarding the Brown Noise, there evidently is such a frequency. Nicola Tesla used a vibrating platform in one of his experiments that apparently oscillated at a frequency which triggered urgent bowel movements. Probably a bad idea for crown control, unless you have a really crazy sense of humor.

I am amazed that there has not been much "sound gun" development. Using nothing but hollow tubes of various length and diameter (in proportion to the length of the sound wave you are projecting), and industrial strength speaker cones, you could do a LOT of damage.

Years ago, a former coworker told me of Army sound gun experiments he participated in at White Sands proving ground during the 1950's. In one, they blasted a reinforced concrete wall, which was pulverized, and then tested the device on a cow and a dog, both of which flew apart "like jigsaw puzzles" he claimed. All this from a short burst from a hollow tube the size of a firehose.

The downside was that the operators and observers had to remain in a shielded bunker, as you could not get near the device when it was operating.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:27 PM
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[QUOTE=EricSilver;1275362]Not Hershey's. They are wrapped in aluminum foil, and the microwaves will bounce off and roast some other part of your body.

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The last Hershey bar I bought came in a modern plastic wrapper, what's next, no more Jiffy Pop?
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:37 PM
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The last Hershey bar I bought came in a modern plastic wrapper, what's next, no more Jiffy Pop?

You are obsessed with Jiffy Pop! Where does that come from?
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:53 PM
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There are plenty of "volunteers" on death row across the country.

But wait a minute! That would be cruel and unusual. Guess we'll just have to do it the usual way, until the unusual becomes the usual.
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:36 PM
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Regarding the Brown Noise, there evidently is such a frequency. Nicola Tesla used a vibrating platform in one of his experiments that apparently oscillated at a frequency which triggered urgent bowel movements. Probably a bad idea for crown control, unless you have a really crazy sense of humor.

This is hilarious! Where would I find a copy of this sound? This would be the best senior prank ever, sneak into office, plug ears, play brown noise to entire school!!
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:03 PM
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...Regarding the Brown Noise, there evidently is such a frequency. Nicola Tesla used a vibrating platform in one of his experiments that apparently oscillated at a frequency which triggered urgent bowel movements. Probably a bad idea for crown control, unless you have a really crazy sense of humor. ...
Tesla also claimed that he could use a "vibrator" (no funny puns here) to cause an earthquake.

The guys and gals at MythBusters gave it a try but it did not work.

I like the Brown Noise idea better. I wonder if those guys at MB will give it a try.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:08 PM
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I guess that I was wrong, the Brown Note (Noise) theory was tested...

Brown note

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The brown note, according to an urban legend, is an infrasonic frequency that causes humans to lose control of their bowels due to resonance. The name is actually metonymy for a common color of feces. Effective frequencies are reportedly between 5 and 9 Hz, below the audible range for humans (generally humans cannot hear sounds below about 20 Hz). However, as the supposed effects are difficult to explain through known medical science and have yet to be verifiably reproduced in a controlled environment, most medical professionals are of the opinion that the brown note, at least as described in the legend, does not exist.

The brown note is unrelated to brown noise.

Testing

The note was tested on the television show MythBusters using Meyer Sound subwoofers on par in quantity and quality with those used at major rock concerts.[1] The experimenters on the show tried a series of frequencies between 5 and 10 Hz at 120–160 dBSPL, but they were unsuccessful in producing the rumored effects. They all reported some physical anxiety and shortness of breath, even a small amount of nausea, but this was dismissed by the participants, noting that sound at that frequency and intensity moves air rapidly in and out of one's lungs.

Other researchers have noted flaws in the methodology of the experiment. Rather than test the entire spectrum below 20 Hz, the MythBusters tested only three specific frequencies: 5, 7, and 9 Hz. In addition, the strategy of surrounding the subject with speakers without accounting for phase effects could have resulted in a loss of effective power being transmitted.

Another show, Brainiac: Science Abuse, performed a similar experiment using 22.275 Hz at −30 dB (according to the show's producers used by Japan's Police and tested by the French Military). During the program, they broadcast the note over the air (and into the living rooms of viewers) in an attempt to cause bowel movements among those who had chosen to stay in the room despite repeated warnings and opportunities to leave. It should be noted, however, that no television speakers and very few subwoofers are able to accurately generate sound at this frequency at a significant volume. They also alleged to have confirmed the myth with a subject, but this subject was out of camera shot for all of the piece except at the very beginning. Using an audio editing software it can be seen that brown note doesn't exist anywhere in the soundtrack. Instead, they replaced it with a 91.8 Hz sine wave tone making it audible to the viewers, therefore not having any effect on one's bowels... .
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:25 PM
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Its better than using MG42's for crowd control.

Non leathal weapons that emit sound waves are becoming very popular on cruise ships and larger yachts. They can keep pirates at bay. The boats that have them keep quite about it, but there have been incidents in which they were used and seem to work.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:33 PM
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Its better than using MG42's for crowd control.

Non leathal weapons that emit sound waves are becoming very popular on cruise ships and larger yachts. They can keep pirates at bay. The boats that have them keep quite about it, but there have been incidents in which they were used and seem to work.
Yar....I hate that.

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Old 09-13-2006, 08:23 PM
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Its better than using MG42's for crowd control.

Non leathal weapons that emit sound waves are becoming very popular on cruise ships and larger yachts. They can keep pirates at bay. The boats that have them keep quite about it, but there have been incidents in which they were used and seem to work.
Imagine if they had non-lethal weapons at Kent State...
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