Remember today 12/7/1941... - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #1 12-08-2006, 09:36 AM

G Sgt Hartman to recruits: There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on ******s, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless!

John Doe · #2 12-08-2006, 09:40 AM

Does that FMJ DVD ever get removed from your player, ak?

aklim · #3 12-08-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doe

Does that FMJ DVD ever get removed from your player, ak?

I have a 5 disc changer. That and Schindler's List doesn't get removed. Both have their aspects of comedy.

andersbenz · #4 12-08-2006, 09:42 AM

Look at the source of the comment. It’s coming from an individual whose tag line is MS Gestapo. The same individual who uses a photo of a WWII Nazi general in place of a photo of himself.

I find the comment Jap offensive. I find the tag line MS Gestapo offensive.

My grandfather fought German occupiers of Denmark as a member of the Danish resistance. He was discovered to be part of the resistance and spent the last 18 months of the war away from his family and business hiding from the Gestapo and certain death.

My wife’s grandfather escaped Hamburg in 1938 with the Gestapo close to his coat tails. He came to America, joined the US Army and eventually went back to Germany to interrogate captured German officers.

My father served in the U.S. Air force. I served in the U.S. Army. It infuriates me to see a leader of this board associate themselves with some of the worst elements of humanity.

Adding insult to injury are the comments of Japan’s natural beauty, her cartoons and swords. I mean come on now. It’s like saying ….but some of my best friends are….

I still can not figure out why one would want to associate themselves with the Gestapo.

My 2 cents.

Hatterasguy · #5 12-08-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by andersbenz

Look at the source of the comment. It’s coming from an individual whose tag line is MS Gestapo. The same individual who uses a photo of a WWII Nazi general in place of a photo of himself.

I find the comment Jap offensive. I find the tag line MS Gestapo offensive.

My grandfather fought German occupiers of Denmark as a member of the Danish resistance. He was discovered to be part of the resistance and spent the last 18 months of the war away from his family and business hiding from the Gestapo and certain death.

My wife’s grandfather escaped Hamburg in 1938 with the Gestapo close to his coat tails. He came to America, joined the US Army and eventually went back to Germany to interrogate captured German officers.

My father served in the U.S. Air force. I served in the U.S. Army. It infuriates me to see a leader of this board associate themselves with some of the worst elements of humanity.

Adding insult to injury are the comments of Japan’s natural beauty, her cartoons and swords. I mean come on now. It’s like saying ….but some of my best friends are….

I still can not figure out why one would want to associate themselves with the Gestapo.

My 2 cents.

Clearly you miss understand my stances on many issues. Heinz Guderian was an extremely interesting German General, I suggest you read his book sometime. He developed tank tactics that revolutionized warfare. If you knew anything about him you would know he was largely against the war, and was frequently on Hitler’s s*** list. This fact is amazing because people on said list didn’t usually live long, but for some reason he did. Hitler just for lack of a better term fired him after 1941. He was held after the war, but released because we found his actions during the war in line with the proper behavior of a General.

I enjoy studying WW2 and the leaders of said war. General Patton, Winston Churchill, are some great individuals, and there are many, many others on all sides.

Now on to the MS Gestapo line, I forgot that was up there actually. That was meant to poke fun at how out of control OD can get sometimes, and how heavy handed tactics are needed. I was going to use KGB, but since this is a Mercedes forum I thought the German equivalent would be better. I figured people would get the joke, guess not people take things very, very seriously around here it seems.

Please don't lecture me on such things, my family has been bleeding for this country since before it was a country. I am a big fan of world culture, and more so Japanese, Chinese, and European culture. I posted said pictures because that is what Google dragged up quickly, and to illustrate the point of my appreciation of various aspects of Japanese culture, art, and landscape. I suggest studying Japanese history a bit, it is extremely fascinating.

Ahh I can't win, whats up with everyone jumping down my throat and calling me a racist? Full moon or something?

LaRondo · #6 12-08-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by andersbenz

Look at the source of the comment. It’s coming from an individual whose tag line is MS Gestapo. The same individual who uses a photo of a WWII Nazi general in place of a photo of himself.

I find the comment Jap offensive. I find the tag line MS Gestapo offensive.

My grandfather fought German occupiers of Denmark as a member of the Danish resistance. He was discovered to be part of the resistance and spent the last 18 months of the war away from his family and business hiding from the Gestapo and certain death.

My wife’s grandfather escaped Hamburg in 1938 with the Gestapo close to his coat tails. He came to America, joined the US Army and eventually went back to Germany to interrogate captured German officers.

My father served in the U.S. Air force. I served in the U.S. Army. It infuriates me to see a leader of this board associate themselves with some of the worst elements of humanity.

Adding insult to injury are the comments of Japan’s natural beauty, her cartoons and swords. I mean come on now. It’s like saying ….but some of my best friends are….

I still can not figure out why one would want to associate themselves with the Gestapo.

My 2 cents.

And speaking of it....the worst elements of humanity...going a little too far...your line of ancestry maybe very honorable, yet, your interpretation of it, emotionally very loaded...I find your claim rather inappropriate ...

On the other hand I got the 'joke' behind 'MS Gestapo' and I just hope he'll put it back in place ...

All of my family's fathers fought on the side of their country, which was Germany and I never heard one of them whining ...

LaRondo · #7 12-07-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Japs 1 US 0, but we evened the score.

A couple of A-Bombs = score even (just another ball game)?

Pete Geither · #8 12-07-2006, 09:06 PM

December 7th, 1941 was my parents' September 11th.

catmandoo62 · #9 12-07-2006, 10:12 PM

i'll never forget 12-7-41,it's my dads birthday.he just passed away last august,he served in the army at hickum field in hawaii.he sent my mom (before they were married)a coconut which to this day my mom still has.

t walgamuth · #10 12-07-2006, 11:06 PM

i have probably used the term "japs" when talking of ww2. it was a very common term then and in writing about it later.

if i use it in the ww2 context i mean no disrespect to any persons of japanese ancestry now.

ww2 was a mistake foisted on the japanese people by their leaders. (iraq might be a parallel).

japanese people are in my mind deserving of much respect for their strong character, work ethic and many other positive traits associated with their culture.

being of gemanic ancestry i mean no disrespect to my forfathers when i use the term kraut either. if talking about benzes you can be assured it is a term used with affection, even though it was not a complimentary term in ww2.

i think in ww1 they may have called them "huns". i never use that one.

tom w

MTI · #11 12-07-2006, 11:07 PM

At today's ceremony, Tom Brokaw had a great closing

"You can hate the war, but you must always honor the warrior."

suginami · #12 12-07-2006, 11:28 PM

I think the term "Kraut" is used affectionately by Germans when referring to themselves. My family is mainly English, Scottish, Dutch, and German, and a recent line of my family immigrated from Bavaria. It is not uncommon to hear the word Kraut used at large family gatherings.

I understand that Japanese were called "Japs" during the war, but it is still an offensive term. Japanese never have and even now do not refer to themselves as "Japs". So it is different from the use of the word "Kraut". Try calling a Japanese American "Jap" and see how they respond. It is not a good way to make friends.

My dad referrs to blacks as "colored", because in his day that is the term they used. Our culture now considers the term racist, and we don't use the word out of respect to African Americans because they don't like it. My father continues to use the word because "that is what we called them when I grew up" excuse, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is disrepectful.

We called Vietnamese "Gooks" during the war, but we don't call them that now. It is offensive.

I don't understand why "Japs" is still considered to be acceptable to all you guys.

Emmerich · #13 12-12-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

At today's ceremony, Tom Brokaw had a great closing

"You can hate the war, but you must always honor the warrior."

only the ones who acted honorably. Japanes soldiers were brutal torturers that showed little respect for human life, don't pity them. Same for the Nazis.

Plantman · #14 12-08-2006, 07:43 AM

Maybe he meant a Jewish-American girl or woman regarded as being pampered or overindulged.

aklim · #15 12-08-2006, 09:46 AM

That is the problem with this PC world we live in. come on people. Grow a thicker skin. Everybody seems to get offended at this, that or the other. Gimme a break.