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diametricalbenz · #91 03-25-2007, 02:58 AM

I was issued a "no visible plates" parking ticket which loosely associated me missing a front plate. After 2 "trial by declarations" they actually agreed! I argued that the "blue plate" was well worn and under certain lighting conditions it cannot be clearly seen when a car is parallel parked in front of it.

A semi at 130mph? Picture please?

BENZ-LGB · #92 03-25-2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Yet, as we speak, people are driving wedges around the People's Republic of Berkeley, and are attempting to separate it from the rest of California.:fork_off:

Don't tell Carl. He may try to cross illegally...

Jim B. · #93 03-25-2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

That comment is demeaning to women.

Oh, nooooooooooooooooo

Corre, corre, run, run away, the P.C. Policia ven aqui!!!

truckinik · #94 03-25-2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

I have lived in a small communist country and California and I can assure you that Califoria, in spite of what some people would like to think, is far from being a small communist country.

You did not need to return to California to fight the ticket. You could have submitted a declaration stating the basis why you believed you were not guilty.

Assuming that you were in fact given a ticket (and I still do not believe it) for smoking (alone) in your truck's cab, this would have been the perfect ticket to fight by way of declaration. The question of guilt or innocence would have turned on: (a) what the law says and (b) the fact that you were alone in the truck's cab.

This would have been the world's ultimate no-brainer.

What you see as being trucker-unfriendly, is reallyj ust an effort to protect the rest of the state's citizens. And, in any event, as you should know by now lots of trucking regulations are pre-empted by Federal law under the provisions of the Commerce Clause.

I too cannot see a tractor-trailer combo doing anywhere near 110 mph, let alone 130 mph.

They did assume correcly, that I would not do my homework, and just mail in the money. Hind-sight being 20/20 however, I would have faught the ticket, and won.
The federal government sets standards for trucks. But the states are allowed, individually to modify, and enforce the laws as they see fit. Length, and bridge laws for axle distance is not a federal law, but a California law. Trailers come now, from the factory with a Cal.on the spot where the axles should be placed, for California, and nowhere else. There are quite a few other laws that California, has developed, which set it apart from the rest of the country's federal laws. There is a law, about log book usage, which is also a California only law. There is a seperate weight law for California. There are also a bunch of other California laws which other states wouldn't dream of passing.
The state of California, as big, as it is, has very few truck stops, and a billion no truck parking areas. There are no trucks signs at every parking lot entrance, and every curb line, exit, or entrance ramp etc. where are we expected to sleep? By 1pm, if even that late, the few truck stops the citie's have allowed to be built, are full. They are half pint sized to begin with, and there are tons of us out here in trucks who need to sleep somewhere. California doesn't want anyone falling asleep at the wheel, yet refuses to build, or allow to be built, sufficient truck parking for us to get some rest without a ticket, or worse. They are a contradiction to their own principals. The good of the people is put more at risk with sleepy, unparked truck drivers than it is with a few trucks parked, and perhaps running so the driver can be sorta comfortable when he sleeps also. See what I mean? They are the most un-trucker-friendly place to deliver to. I refuse runs out there. If you go to a truck stop anywhere in the country, and so much as mention a California run, and drivers cower, and criticize the very idea of a trip out there because of the crap the state pulls. They are not, by any means up to speed with the rest of the country for a long list of reasons. The smoking ticket was given to me.I did not fight it, because I knew it was like trying to feed a dead horse, when you talk , or try to reason with a California judge, jury, cop, or other authority. It's like talking to a wall. Yet they let O.J. off, for mutilating his wife..

BENZ-LGB · #95 03-25-2007, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by truckinik

They did assume correcly, that I would not do my homework, and just mail in the money. Hind-sight being 20/20 however, I would have faught the ticket, and won.

You would have.

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Originally Posted by truckinik

I knew it was like trying to feed a dead horse, when you talk , or try to reason with a California judge, jury, cop, or other authority. It's like talking to a wall. Yet they let O.J. off, for mutilating his wife..

Make up your mind. Would you have won or lost? You can't argue out of both sides of your mouth. Only those of us who are members of the Bar are allowed to do that.

Who do you think is the "they" that let O.J. and Bobby Blake skate?

Yep...stupid jurors, that's who.

BTW, at least you did not write something about trying to f**k a dead horse.

You know, for all the alleged antipathy towards California trucking regulations, there is no dearth of truckers here. It seems like everyday brings more and more truckers eager to feed off our booming economy.

If California is such a truck-unfriendly state, then why the Hell are our roads jammed with truckers and their trucks and why is our air choked with exhaust from trucks?

Just wondering....

Jim B. · #96 03-25-2007, 03:32 AM

Nick, thank you for your interesting perspective. I had NO idea California was that rough for truckers. Most auto drivers have NO idea what is involved in truck driving, I would think. If they did, they'd at LEAST maintain respectable distances from, use signals, not cut in front of or jam their brakes in front of big rigs. They don't handle like cars, can't stop, change lanes and accellerate like them, and that needs to be respected. For their own their self interest, they should show respect, lest their smart move in their little Toyota Corolla gets them squashed by a jacknifed truck that couldn't avoid them.

There are SOME good, large well equipped truck stops in the state of Calif. I recall stopping at the ones in Ontario (So. Cal., Union 76), Santa Nella (Central Cal., T/A) and Sacramento (No. Cal., Union 76), and there are some motels near the interstates I have seen also

Are you familiar with this site: (www.thetruckersreport.com) Some pretty good tips in there.

truckinik · #97 03-25-2007, 03:35 AM

They're all trying to get to Arizona, and NewMexico to truck stops,so they can sleep..
There are a huge amount of major companies.(Swft, Werner, Schneider, JB.Hunt, etc.) with what we call "Forced dispatch" The drver literally does not have a choice whether to take the run out ther or not. If the company says so, than they have to go out there. I own my own trucks, and run my own business. ALL of my loads come to me, or go to my drivers as LOAD OFFERS, not required to take if you don't want it. Believe me if you asked a lot of those drivers in the trucks you see out there, if they are there by "choice", they will indeed, tell you "Hell No!" and probably also tell you why, and why they wish they weren't there at all.

truckinik · #98 03-25-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Nick, thank you for your interesting perspective. I had NO idea California was that rough for truckers. Most auto drivers have NO idea what is involved in truck driving, I would think. If they did, they'd at LEAST maintain respectable distances from, use signals, not cut in front of or jam their brakes in front of big rigs. They don't handle like cars, can't stop, change lanes and accellerate like them, and that needs to be respected. For their own their self interest, they should show respect, lest their smart move in their little Toyota Corolla gets them squashed by a jacknifed truck that couldn't avoid them.

There are SOME good, large well equipped truck stops in the state of Calif. I recall stopping at the ones in Ontario (So. Cal., Union 76), Santa Nella (Central Cal., T/A) and Sacramento (No. Cal., Union 76), and there are some motels near the interstates I have seen also

Are you familiar with this site: (www.thetruckersreport.com) Some pretty good tips in there.

Hey, thanks for the link Jim. How do you find this sorta stuff anyways? I wish I was better at using the computer. Thanks for your support also. Nice to know that someone is not just trying to tear me up...
-Nick

truckinik · #99 03-25-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

You would have.

Make up your mind. Would you have won or lost? You can't argue out of both sides of your mouth. Only those of us who are members of the Bar are allowed to do that.

Who do you think is the "they" that let O.J. and Bobby Blake skate?

Yep...stupid jurors, that's who.

BTW, at least you did not write something about trying to f**k a dead horse.

You know, for all the alleged antipathy towards California trucking regulations, there is no dearth of truckers here. It seems like everyday brings more and more truckers eager to feed off our booming economy.

If California is such a truck-unfriendly state, then why the Hell are our roads jammed with truckers and their trucks and why is our air choked with exhaust from trucks?

Just wondering....

Yes, the same Jurors are the citizens of the state of California who are so worried about truck issues, and truck parking, emissions, smog, noise, whatever, but will allow O.J. to go free ?....WTF?
They probably wash their cars, but never check the fluids...ever. Where are their priorities anyways?

mespe · #**100** 03-25-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

thank you for the definition of ficticuos.

i knew that.

i did not understand your point though. and i still don't.

sorry.

tom w

IF YOU PUT A PLATE ON A CAR THAT ISN'T REGISTERED TO THAT CAR, YOU CAN GET A TICKET FOR FICTITIOUS PLATES... UNDERSTAND NOW?

t walgamuth · #**101** 03-25-2007, 08:53 AM

i just went to the caterpillar engine site and ran a mock set up to buy a tractor with their biggest engine.

pretty inteesting stuff.

if i understood it correctly, the rpm at 55 mph is 1091. the max hp is at 2200 rpm and the fuel shutoff to limit rpm is set at 2520 rpm. and they listed it with an 8.5' wide truck with a max payload (or gvw i am not sure which) of 80K and a drag coefficient of .8. they list a vehicle top speed of 127 mph.

now i may be missing something here. what they are calling vehicle maximum speed might be a theoretical thing that will only occur downhill with a strong tailwind.

so i apologize to the trucknik for doubting the top speed claims. it appears there is some factual basis.

i am still doubting the smoking in the cab ticket though.

tom w

t walgamuth · #**102** 03-25-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mespe

IF YOU PUT A PLATE ON A CAR THAT ISN'T REGISTERED TO THAT CAR, YOU CAN GET A TICKET FOR FICTITIOUS PLATES... UNDERSTAND NOW?

obviously.

thanks for responding.

tom w

mespe · #**103** 03-25-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

I don't watch the Castro News Network.

Now, if it was on Fox, I may believe it.

Fox- fair and biased

mespe · #**104** 03-25-2007, 09:09 AM

I see, I'm not the only one that lives in this forum.

BENZ-LGB · #**105** 03-25-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by truckinik

Yes, the same Jurors are the citizens of the state of California who are so worried about truck issues, and truck parking, emissions, smog, noise, whatever, but will allow O.J. to go free ?....WTF?
They probably wash their cars, but never check the fluids...ever. Where are their priorities anyways?

What is your problem with California anyway?

If you don't like California and its people then I suggest that you:

do not drive here

do not buy cars that were designed here

do not watch movies that were filmed here by directors who lwork for studios that are located here

do not buy fruits, vegetables and other agricultural products raised here

do not listen to music recorde here....

I could go on, but I think that you get the point.

The OJ case was an anomaly. There were deep-rooted racial issues that colored (no pun intended) the jurors' reasoning.

If you feel that you are been "attacked" and "torn" here, then welcome to the club. This is a very freewheeling site (the OD forum anyway). When people put stuff "out there" they are subject to being challenged. Everyone does it and it has been done to everyone.

If you can't the heat, get out of the kitchen.

And no, I still don't believe your claim that you were ticketed by a CHP officer for allegedly violating a Labor Code Sec.

I guess I should have been born in Missouri--SHOW ME THE PROOF!