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Old 06-07-2007, 12:30 PM
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This is sad. This is an important lesson for kids who are considering getting in a car and driving while they're drunk. Apparently, the lesson is: "Go right ahead and do it. There'll be no consequences for your actions."

I wonder what would have happened if she had run over somebody and killed them. I guess that if the victim weren't popular or a celebrity, we wouldn't care.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:36 PM
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More California weirdness.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:00 PM
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:28 PM
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This sucks. one of us did what she did, we would never see daylite.

she got two days credit for surrendering before midnight? I`ll try that
one some time, yeah right.
she is bored, cold and fearful of her fellow inmates. It`s just a different
group of inmates than whats she is use to. plus no red carpet out to
the play yard for recess. OH BO HOO
now she is all sicky not doing well. must be that prison food.

we have no justice system, the whole thing is corrupt. the tax payers
get stuck paying for all these court cases. and for what? let em out
early because of over crowding? WOW that`s punishment.
we have our jails all across the country filled with illegals that causes
a over crowding problem. we need to clean house . Texas is
on the right track. just not fast enough.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:39 PM
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one of us did what she did, we would never see daylite.

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Bull****. I have NEVER seen someone get 45 days for dui/s. I would have never graced the jailhouse steps.

Last week I had a girl get 48 hours jail time for driving while suspended for dui. Suspended time, none to serve.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:48 PM
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She violated her probation, twice I think. Down here in Florida, if you violate your probation you go to jail. Violate it a second time after you were given a second chance (which is rare) and you sit in jail without bail while you await sentencing.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:53 PM
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She violated her probation, twice I think. Down here in Florida, if you violate your probation you go to jail. Violate it a second time after you were given a second chance (which is rare) and you sit in jail without bail while you await sentencing.
I thought it was once on a 1st offense dui. If twice, 40 days or so doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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She violated her probation, twice I think. Down here in Florida, if you violate your probation you go to jail. Violate it a second time after you were given a second chance (which is rare) and you sit in jail without bail while you await sentencing.
Ernesto, (BENZ-LGB), once again, would be the last word on this. It's California law, and he's a criminal prosecutor in Los Angeles County, and probably handles Probation violations, like this one, or has close friends in the office who do. Maybe he'll feel like weighing in, as the real expert here.

From what I recall, though, once they are proven, the Judge usually hands out jail sentences from 30 days to 6 months on them. When it's a revocation of probation the DA wants, and the Judge agrees, then it's off to State Prison on the felony revocation.

Many typical minimum California State Prison terms begin with 16 months/2 years/3 years, depending on prior convictions, mitigating/aggravating circumstances, and what's in the presentence report from the Adult Probation Department. The Judge selects the term, and usually states the "reason for sentence choice"
and is required to do it when the upper term is imposed...

The judges are well aware of time reductions for jail overcrowding, credits for good time/work time, and early release, in County Jail. Those things are entirely within the purview of the LASD. Probably the judge thought about them before he gave her 45 days.

Lordy, the British will have a field day with this one.

There should be an uproar in the US too. What a role model for millions of 8 to 20 year old girls. Thumb your nose at jail food, and you get a free pass with an apology and a ride home in the mayor's limousine.

NEVER, EVER thought I would agree with anything Al Sharpton said.

She's not home free, yet, though. Got to wear the ankle jewelry for the probation term, and comply with all terms, and I'd doubt after 2nd or 3rd probation modifications, she can keep out of State Prison if she violates again.

Even though LASD let her out, the spotlight is going to be on the Judge, next time. If she picks up ANOTHER beef, stick a fork in it.

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Old 06-07-2007, 05:19 PM
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Bull****. I have NEVER seen someone get 45 days for dui/s. I would have never graced the jailhouse steps.

Last week I had a girl get 48 hours jail time for driving while suspended for dui. Suspended time, none to serve.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Bull****. I have NEVER seen someone get 45 days for dui/s. I would have never graced the jailhouse steps.

Last week I had a girl get 48 hours jail time for driving while suspended for dui. Suspended time, none to serve.
DUI + driving on a suspended license + violation of a court order + violation of her terms of probation + failure to enroll on an alcohol or drug program + etc.

The original 45 days was a gift.

Cutting it short to 23 was a downright bonanza.

Letting her go on a promise to wear an ankle bracelet -- a sick joke.

A few years ago, Mr. Andrew Luster (he of Max Factor and GHB fame) was allowed by a judge to wear an ankle bracelet while his trial was pending.

That did not stop Andrew from:

1. Leaving his house for certain "approved visits."

2. Having visitors at his place, so technically he could still continue to bring young women to his beach shack and ply them Exxtasy and GHB.

3. And, when things got too boring sitting at his beach shack, he simply ditched the monitor and took off for Mexico.

Ankle bracelets are a joke.

Over 50 years ago Hitle declared "Paris is burning!"

Today, when people wear "Paris is burning" tee-shirts they are referring to an entirely different kind of "burn.

Sorry JD, but she is an ugly, buttless, boobless skank.

Not even with a ten foot pole!

More on this later.....
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:51 PM
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DUI + driving on a suspended license + violation of a court order + violation of her terms of probation + failure to enroll on an alcohol or drug program + etc.

The original 45 days was a gift.

Cutting it short to 23 was a downright bonanza.
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See post 17

I did google for an article but could only determine that she was dui/s. I think you would agree that driving while suspended for the first time on a first offense dui would be very discretionary to the judge and often would not result in any jail time at all. I didn't see the secondary and tertiary collaterals people are referring to, thus post 17.
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See post 17

I did google for an article but could only determine that she was dui/s. I think you would agree that driving while suspended for the first time on a first offense dui would be very discretionary to the judge and often would not result in any jail time at all. I didn't see the secondary and tertiary collaterals people are referring to, thus post 17.
If the person was driving to work and of modest means, I would think the judge might consider that there was at least a pressing need.

Hilton could easily afford to have 3 chauffeurs doing shifts on her estate, at the ready to drive her to any and every party scene her little heart desired to go to.

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Old 06-07-2007, 07:03 PM
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Here is some evidence, however circumstantial, of a backroom deal.

Both the prosecutor AND the judge objected to the early home-release.

Read below:

Sheriff Lee Baca released Hilton to serve 40 days at her Hollywood Hills home after she served three days of what was expected to be a three week stay for violating probation in a reckless driving case.

While Baca's spokesman said the judge who sentenced her had been consulted, he didn't mention that Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer objected to her release. When Sauer sentenced her last month he specifically said she could not do her time at home.

"He did not agree to the terms of release that the sheriff proposed," said Superior Court spokesman Allan Parachini.


You know that there is "funny" business going on when the Sheriff's spoke-hole deliberately lies to the press by saying that the judge was "consulted" while conveniently leaving out the part about the judge being consulted AND objecting to it.

Baca's spoke-hole is just another spinner, trying to make his boss look good and defending the indefensible. Sharpton (as much as it pains me to say it) is right on this one. Black, brown and poor defendants get treated one way, an ugly, skanky rich ***** gets treated differently. The system failed!

L.A. County has long been known as a place where celbrities and near-celebrities are catered and "worshipped" to an extent not seen elsewhere. The infatuation with celebrities extends to the law enforcement community. For example, L.A.D.A. Gil Garcetti transferred the O.J. Simpson case from Santa Monica (where it was properly venued) to downtown L.A. (where the jury make-up would be more sympathetic to O.J.). Sheriff Lee Baca regularly deputizes celebrities (which allows them to carry "toy" badges and real guns). In return the Sheriff gets to hobnob with people who would not otherwise give him the time of day.

Anyone who has watched the movie L.A. Confidential knows how things "were" done in Los Angeles during the 40s. It has not changed much.

I would not be a prosecutor in L.A. even if they doubled my currently crappy civil servant salary!
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:28 AM
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Rich blacks get away with crimes just like rich whites, Sharpton is just looking for another opportunity to run his mouth.
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This is sad. This is an important lesson for kids who are considering getting in a car and driving while they're drunk. Apparently, the lesson is: "Go right ahead and do it. There'll be no consequences for your actions."
No the lesson is if you have money you play by different rules...how many poor people would have gotten out so fast...
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