Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Vronsky's Avatar
Enemy combatant
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Amsterdam, Old Europe
Posts: 841
Any (ex-)jetfighter pilots around here ?

Went to this airshow at a military airbase near where I live, with my 8-year old and a friend yesterday. Awesome show: F16's, F18's , A10's, Awacs, biplanes, formation flying by Turkish Stars (NF5) and Patrouille de France. And then there was this CH-47: unbelievable what they did with this 'flying truck'. Man, if I were young again....
__________________
2011 Prius
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-17-2007, 09:43 AM
Medmech's Avatar
Gone Waterboarding
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 117
Robin Olds, legendary ace and Air Force leader, dies


June 16, 2007

Col. Robin Olds pre-flights his F-4C Phantom in the Vietnam War. (U.S. Air Force photo) Robin Olds' aerial combat victories of record were:

World War II, in the 434th Fighter Squadron, 12 kills (with a 13th credited in some accounts)
Aug. 14, 1944, two kills
Aug. 25, 1944, three kills
Oct. 6, 1944, one kill
Feb. 9, 1945, one kill
Feb. 14, 1945, two kills
March 19, 1945, two kills
April 7, 1945, one kill

Vietnam War, 433rd and 555th Tactical Fighter Squadrons, four kills
Jan. 2, 1967, one kill
May 4, 1967, one kill
May 20, 1967, two kills; his back-seater was Stephen Croker, later a lieutenant general and once head of the 8th Air Force at Barksdale Air Force Base.



Preparing to add the 19th, 20th and 21st red stars to the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing MiG-kill scoreboard is Col. Robin Olds, wing commander, and the first triple MiG-killer of the Vietnam conflict. Other victors in a May 20 encounter with MiG-17s 40 miles northeast of Hanoi are (left to right) Maj. Philip P. Combies, 1st Lt. Daniel L. Lafferty, Maj. John R. Pardo, 1st Lt. Stephen B. Croker, and 1st Lt. Stephen A. Wayne (front center). Olds later was credited with a fourth MiG to become the only quadruple MiG-killer of the Vietnam conflict. (U.S. Air Force photo) On the Web:
U.S. Air Force Academy
U.S. Air Force Web site
Brig. Gen. Robin Olds' official U.S. Air Force biography
MORE NEWS UPDATES





Related news from the Web
Latest headlines by topic:
Theater
Arts
History in the News

Powered by Topix.net
From wire reports

U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY, Colo. -- Robin Olds, one of the legends of the U.S. Air Force, died of congestive heart failure this week at the age of 84.

A retured brigadier general, he died Thursday at his home in Steamboat Springs, Colo., according to a release from the Air Force.

Olds was rated a triple ace for having shot down a confirmed total of 16 enemy aircraft during World War II and the Vietnam War, with another 11 aircraft destroyed on the ground. His assignments ranged from England, Germany and Libya to Thailand and the United States, and his poisitions in command or senior staff went from squadron, base, group and wing commander to and assignments to Headquarters U.S. Air Force and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"Triple-ace Robin Olds' legendary leadership and heroic service to the cause of freedom have been an inspiration to our nation and our Air Force," said Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley. "He is one of our 'great captains' and a pioneer of air power.

"He became an ace with 12 aerial victories during World War II, flying P-38 Lightnings and P-51 Mustangs, and later shot down 4 MiGs in Vietnam to bring his total to 16. He also led the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing -- the famed "Wolfpack" -- to a record 24 aerial victories, a total unsurpassed by any other wing during the war in Southeast Asia," Moseley said.

"Throughout his career, he was a staunch advocate for better fighters, better pilot training and new tactics, culminating in the war-winning air-to-air tactics and doctrine of surgical precision bombing we use today."

Olds was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on July 14, 1922, the son of Maj. Gen. Robert and Eloise Olds. He spent his younger years in Hampton, Va., and attended the U.S.Military Academy at West Point, where he was an All-American tackle. He graduated in 1943 as a second lieutenant.

Following graduation from pilot training in 1943, General Olds was assigned to the European Theater at the end of World War II, where he flew 107 combat missions. During the Vietnam War, he flew 152 combat missions in the F-4 Phantom as the wing commander of the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing at Ubon Air Base, Thailand.

Olds' exploits as the creator and mission commander of Operation Bolo, the most successful aerial battle of the Vietnam War, have been documented in the recent History Channel Dogfights Special series "Air Ambush."

Non-combat honors include assignment to the first jet P-80 squadron in 1946, membership in the first jet Aerial Acrobatic Demonstration Team, second-place showing in the Thompson Trophy Race jet division in 1946 and participation in the first dawn-to-dusk transcontinental round trip flight. He was a squadron commander of the British Royal Air Force's 1 Squadron, a fighter unit based in Sussex, U.K., during a 1948 exchange tour.

He achieved almost legendary status in the Vietnam War, developing a flamboyant leadership style, with a full, handlebar mustache and a panache that was an inspiration to younger pilots. Though a wing commander, he led by example, taking combat to the enemy. His F-4C Phantom fighter "Scat XXVII" all his airplanes' names started with the word "Scat" is at the Air Force Museum, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.

Olds' military decorations begin with the Air Force Cross, the service's second-highest award for bravery, second only to the Medal of Honor. He also was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star with three oak leaf clusters, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross with five oak leaf clusters, Air Medal with 39 oak leaf clusters, British Distinguished Flying Cross, French Croix de Guerre, Vietnam Air Force Distinguished Service Order, Vietnam Air Gallantry Medal with gold wings and the Vietnam Air Service Medal.

After his duty in Vietnam, Olds was commandant of cadets at the U.S. Air Force Academy from 1967 to 1971. His last assignment before retiring from the Air Force in 1973 was as director of safety for the Air Force.

Up to a few months prior to his illness he was frequently called upon as guest speaker and lecturer for his inspirational and motivational talks. He was married to Ella Raines, who died in 1988, and then to Morgan Olds.

Olds is survived by two daughters, Christina Olds of Vail, Colo., and Susan Scott-Risner of North Bend, Wash.; one granddaughter, Jennifer Newman of Santa Monica, Calif., and half-brother, Fred Olds of Virginia.

A memorial service will be held at the U.S. Air Force Academy within the next two weeks. The service and his family ask that memorials be made to the Red River Valley Fighter Pilots Association toward scholarships for the children or spouses of armed forces aircrew members killed or missing in action.

Article Comments

This article does not have any comments associated with it Add Comment
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 624
just a cessna 172 glass cockpit pilot here....
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2003 S430- "Yolanda"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-18-2007, 03:36 PM
Vronsky's Avatar
Enemy combatant
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Amsterdam, Old Europe
Posts: 841
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistress View Post
just a cessna 172 glass cockpit pilot here....
... done any outside loops and tailslides lately ???
__________________
2011 Prius
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 624
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vronsky View Post
... done any outside loops and tailslides lately ???
no, not yet, i'm just learnding...although i do have to say i like them steep turns.....poweroff stalls next time...
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2003 S430- "Yolanda"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-18-2007, 03:55 PM
BENZ-LGB's Avatar
Strong, silent type
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,663
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistress View Post
.....poweroff stalls next time...
__________________
Current Benzes

1989 300TE "Alice"
1990 300CE "Sam Spade"
1991 300CE "Beowulf" RIP (06.1991 - 10.10.2007)
1998 E320 "Orson"
2002 C320 Wagon "Molly Fox"

Res non semper sunt quae esse videntur

My Gallery

Not in this weather!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:03 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 624
Quote:
Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB View Post
separates the men from the men....power-on stalls are worse...
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2003 S430- "Yolanda"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:18 PM
cscmc1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Central IL
Posts: 2,782
Speaking of fighter pilots, check this page out:

http://billetjohn.free.fr/index_en.html

Episode 1 is my personal favorite. Watch all the way to the end.
__________________
1992 300D 2.5T
1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)

Last edited by cscmc1; 06-18-2007 at 04:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:23 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 624
dang it- access denied...
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2003 S430- "Yolanda"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:27 PM
cscmc1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Central IL
Posts: 2,782
Mistress -- do you have a mailbox quota? If not, PM me your address and I'll email you the clip. It's ~66MB.

They're animated, narrated clips (French with subtitles). Pretty entertaining if you're anything-but a fighter jock. Well, I suspect jet jocks would get a kick out of them as well. As a tanker maintainer, I get an extra kick out of the KC-10's role.
__________________
1992 300D 2.5T
1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:30 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 624
Quote:
Originally Posted by cscmc1 View Post
Mistress -- do you have a mailbox quota? If not, PM me your address and I'll email you the clip. It's ~66MB.
oh no, i can look at home i am at work....so i'll check it out tonight. thanks.
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2003 S430- "Yolanda"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:34 PM
cscmc1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Central IL
Posts: 2,782
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistress View Post
oh no, i can look at home i am at work....so i'll check it out tonight. thanks.
Right-o. Enjoy!
__________________
1992 300D 2.5T
1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-19-2007, 12:54 PM
G-Benz's Avatar
Razorback Soccer Dad
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas/Fort-Worth
Posts: 5,711
There is an active duty pilot that attends our church here who flew the mission during the first Gulf War to bomb Saddam's winter palace.

He noted at one talk at church how he got REAL close to God during the flight, since the Iraqis were shooting EVERYTHING at him...even his wingman had to ditch him because of the amount of flak in the air!
__________________
2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-19-2007, 12:58 PM
Medmech's Avatar
Gone Waterboarding
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 117
My brother is a KC-135/10 pilot and he says that the fighter pilot job is over rated. He can fly a T-38 whenever he want's and enjoys the coffee maker aboard his 135.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-19-2007, 12:59 PM
cscmc1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Central IL
Posts: 2,782
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Benz View Post
There is an active duty pilot that attends our church here who flew the mission during the first Gulf War to bomb Saddam's winter palace.

He noted at one talk at church how he got REAL close to God during the flight, since the Iraqis were shooting EVERYTHING at him...even his wingman had to ditch him because of the amount of flak in the air!
Kinda like this?

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/LucasStL/1180/large/

MAJOR pucker-factor
__________________
1992 300D 2.5T
1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page