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Old 07-01-2007, 08:37 PM
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they're widely used.


...and they DON'T require four cabs to achieve the desired output, like the LAB12's do.

tons easier to build also.


You must understand that any horn has to be a given size to reproduce its desired cutoff.
Laws of physics dictate there's no way around this.

I have several LAB subs, have 'experienced' the Bill F tubas. There is no comparison.
I'll give BF credit for his DIY effort.

Ever see any riders speced with BF???
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:41 PM
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You must understand that any horn has to be a given size to reproduce its desired cutoff.
Laws of physics dictate there's no way around this.

I have several LAB subs, have 'experienced' the Bill F tubas. There is no comparison.
I'll give BF credit for his DIY effort.

Ever see any riders speced with BF???
And why were no Danley subs present ant ANY of the shootouts? Among the several othesr out there, Bill's was the easiest to build.

I'd like to see a response graph of a labsub (taken 3rd party - at 1watt/meter.) Currently Wayne Parham (PIspeakers) sub currently has the highest output, and lowest distortion (it's push/pull) His cooling system is also clever. (again, another problem with labs) Do you see any of them on riders?


We're talking small bands and sound company's that are just starting out - not multi-million dollar operations here.


Ever listen to a DR before? pain to build, sound amazing...
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:25 PM
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I'm sure Danley had better things to do. These "shoot outs" please the amateurs. Although, the JT Growler is a nice box.

Do some research on qtr wave resonators, comb filtering, power alley...
There's tons of info out there these days.

Bill F has a good DIY box plan for those wanting a cheap, light weight box that is sensitive. It's just not rider friendy and very accurate.

Is the 'DR' Bill's line array stuff? If I remember he used piezos and bends 2Khz around corners. Not possible with his horn flare.
Piezos might work OK above 5K with a ragged response. But I'd stick with compression drivers and straight horns. Crossfire idea is a joke.

Nothing beats a "point source" IMO. Check out a 'Unity horn'.


I'd be more than happy to have a Bill F's box shootout with my LAB subs. Bring 'em on...

I just happen to have a few acres where it could happen.

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