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Old 11-03-2007, 09:53 AM
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Not so much him, but the Libertarian movement itself. Our country first. Pretty basic.
Democrats and Repubs are not the only political parties out there. But the media and the election policies themselves tend to squash any other parties chances of even being on the ballot, much less having a real chance. Absolute power corrupts absolutely?
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:00 AM
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The flat tax sounds enticing at first glance, but when you get into details about how and what is tax deductable it gets dicey.

In general, I am against any changes in any tax systems because no matter how they are promoted by the time they get implemented we always end up paying more taxes in the end.

Folks support them because they imagine that they will benefit from the change, of course, it just never seems to work out in the end.

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Old 11-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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The flat tax sounds enticing at first glance, but when you get into details about how and what is tax deductable it gets dicey.

In general, I am against any changes in any tax systems because no matter how they are promoted by the time they get implemented we always end up paying more taxes in the end.

Folks support them because they imagine that they will benefit from the change, of course, it just never seems to work out in the end.

Tom W
I'm not looking for a financial benefit from flat tax. I can afford the taxes I pay and could afford to pay higher taxes. No big deal.

What is a big deal to me is that the current system is dishonest and unfair. It is dishonest because it provides loopholes for the few. It is unfair because, even if there were no loopholes, it does not tax in proportion to income.

I like this guy's perspective: http://www.freedomworks.org/armey/
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:43 PM
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I'm not looking for a financial benefit from flat tax. I can afford the taxes I pay and could afford to pay higher taxes. No big deal.

What is a big deal to me is that the current system is dishonest and unfair. It is dishonest because it provides loopholes for the few. It is unfair because, even if there were no loopholes, it does not tax in proportion to income.

I like this guy's perspective: http://www.freedomworks.org/armey/
What do you find fair about taxing in proportion to income? Does income level reflect level of benefit from government services? Should income level determine the cost of other goods and services on a sliding scale?
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:51 PM
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1. What do you find fair about taxing in proportion to income? 2. Does income level reflect level of benefit from government services? 3. Should income level determine the cost of other goods and services on a sliding scale?
1. It would be interesting if everybody paid exactly the same amount of taxes. But kind of dumb. I think people should pay taxes in proportion to the amount of services they receive and in proportion to the amount of money they save.

2. Yes. For example, I'll bet that Bill Gates can talk to any member of Congress, regardless of party, or the president whenever he feels so moved. I'll bet if Gates asks for an explanation of a particular gov service or regulation that he will get an answer from the upper levels of the bureaucracy. Also, I'm just guessing here, but if he called Hillary or Rudolph and said he was especially interested in some issue or other that those politicians would be awfully interested in discussing it. If he had a credible death threat against him his local and state government would be all over it.

Compare and contrast that with some middle class family member from Everett.

3. No, but taxes on consumption of those goods should be in direct proportion to the sale price so that the more one consumes, the greater the tax burden.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:53 AM
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Not so much him, but the Libertarian movement itself. Our country first. Pretty basic.
Democrats and Repubs are not the only political parties out there. But the media and the election policies themselves tend to squash any other parties chances of even being on the ballot, much less having a real chance. Absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Absolutely.
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