Uh oh, CMAC used the n****** word!

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In solidarity for Vwbuge's position on this thread, yesterday I refrained from buying a Sunday newspaper at the Exxon station...

So how did Exxon get hurt by it?

What about the other Exxon tainted products?

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Of course they're unchanged. Morality for a business is to make money.

Some have to live in an idealistic world.

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1. My bold action reduced the gross revenue of that Exxon mini-mart by $5.00 (out-of-town price for the NY Times), sending a shockwave that will hit Exxon's board of directors square between the horns.

2. Exxon tainted products? Oh crap, I DID buy a pack of Twinkies there, but I didn't notice any petroleum-like taste...well, no more than usual for a Twinkie.

WHAT?????? $5 for a NY Times??? This is too far. They are not only gouging us in gas they are marking up the NY Times. That's it. I'm joining the boycott too. I'm not buying their gas. That'll teach them. BTW, there isn't an Exxon station here so I can say that.

The bag. What about the bag? It's OK to eat the Twinkies as long as they were not wrapped up in a bag made from a byproduct of Exxon's tainted oil

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A corporation is legally defined as a person. As a person, you are responsible for damages when you are sued and lose. Why aren't they?

Your description of business is what I've been saying. It is why they need oversight. Another reason is that they can do more damage in a half hour than you can spend in your lifetime helping with charity.

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Who says they were not responsible? As a person, you have the right to challenge a ruling, don't you? You can appeal in court, can't you? What about murderers who were sentenced to death and are fighting it tooth and nail?

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Just thought I'd throw this out there - it doesn't address many of the issues mentioned here, but Exxon's profit margin is running at about 10%, whereas Microsoft is near 80%. They may be raking in the cash, but they're not keeping all of it.

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I got a chili dog there once. I got gas even though I didn't intend to . . . screwed up MY damned boycott!

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I don't think your first assertion is accurate. I think it is more accurate to say that corporations have many of teh rights and responsibilities of people. To the best of my knowledge, and I am willing to be proven wrong, corporations are not exempt from lawsuits.

Many corporation have been sued and they often lose, sometimes everything -- like Johns Manville, for example.

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Miss.: Appeals Court Backs Wetlands Suit
Associated Press 02.04.08, 12:34 PM ET

JACKSON, Miss. -

A federal appeals court has upheld the convictions of a Mississippi coastal developer and two others for mail fraud and violations of the federal Clean Water Act.

A federal jury in February 2005 convicted Robert J. Lucas Jr., of Lucedale, chief executive of Big Hill Acres Inc., and the two others of 41 charges, including conspiracy.

Lucas; his daughter, Robbie Lucas Wrigley (nyse: WWY - news - people ), an Ocean Springs real estate agent; and M.E. Thompson, a professional engineer from D'Iberville, were accused of selling lots in Vancleave in a wetlands area with unworkable septic systems.

In December 2005, U.S. District Judge Louis Guirola sentenced Lucas to nine years in prison. Lucas, Wrigley and Thompson also were ordered to pay more than $1.4 million to mitigate west Jackson County wetlands.

On Friday, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the convictions, rejecting the defendants' arguments that evidence did not show a violation of the Clean Water Act.

"Defendants made misrepresentations that directly contradicted inspecting buyers' observations," the 5th Circuit said. "Wrigley misrepresented the dryness of the site, for example, when buyers noticed wetlands and wetlands vegetation and questioned her about the wetlands."

Lucas' two corporations were sentenced to five years' probation and were subject to the $1.4 million restitution and more than $5 million in fines. Thompson, who designed and certified septic systems at the Big Hill Acres subdivision in Vancleave, and Wrigley, who sold the wetlands lots, were sentenced to seven years and two months in prison.

Federal prosecutors said the defendants knowingly polluted federally protected wetlands and area waterways by installing underground septic systems that malfunctioned in saturated soil; thwarted state and federal health and environmental regulators; and defrauded residents into buying uninhabitable land.

Defendants' attorneys argued there was no proof that area waterways were polluted by the septic systems. They also said the defendants complied with regulators. They argued the mobile home park did not flood during Hurricane Katrina and said homeowners there were selling lots at a profit.

"The government presented evidence that defendants, despite warnings from agencies that they were installing septic systems in saturated soils, advertised the lots as `high and dry' and, when asked by owners if there were wetlands on the property, responded that there were none," the 5th Circuit said.

Friday's ruling was issued by a panel of three 5th Circuit judges - Patrick E. Higginbotham, Jerry E. Smith and Priscilla Richman Owen. The decision was written by Higginbotham.

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