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Old 04-29-2008, 12:38 AM
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This is a point of view I haven't heard before. Is this man's concern common among African-Americans?


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Old 04-29-2008, 06:41 AM
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I listened for a minute or two, does he say anything more than Wright is jealous of Obama? I got that in the first 5 seconds--why go on and on and on...
One of the main problems I have with Rev Wright is his proclaiming the old myth that whitey invented AIDS to kill blacks. This is a myth created by the KGB and has been fully acknowledged and documented since the fall of the USSR---why does it keep getting traction among supposedly educated blacks?
Does believing a lie help his credibility?
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I listened for a minute or two, does he say anything more than Wright is jealous of Obama? I got that in the first 5 seconds--why go on and on and on...
One of the main problems I have with Rev Wright is his proclaiming the old myth that whitey invented AIDS to kill blacks. This is a myth created by the KGB and has been fully acknowledged and documented since the fall of the USSR---why does it keep getting traction among supposedly educated blacks?
Does believing a lie help his credibility?
I guess it gets traction with educated blacks because they recall the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:25 AM
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I listened to the audio of the Q&A after his speech yesterday. The combination of his self-indulgent, dismissive answers to the questions and the crowd cheering him on was deadly. He said things that were mildly funny and not terribly imaginative and some people in the crowd just went crazy for him. The moderator had to keep trying to get the crowd to shut up so that she could ask the questions. It was awful. It's a long way to November, but right now it's looking more and more like a McCain presidency, which is just ridiculous.
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I guess it gets traction with educated blacks because they recall the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.
Right. His statements on the subject are over the top, but what do people expect? Our government did some really, really bad things. Do people really expect that there won't be lingering hostility about it?
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:30 AM
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Carol Simpson on Larry King last night said she thinks Wright is plain and simply mad at Obama and swinging back.

Did you catch his remarks at the Wash. Press Corps yesterday. Pretty sarcastic!
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:39 AM
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Barak Hussein Obama can only hope that Limbaugh will tire of Mr Wright because nothing BHO says will satisfy anybody.

If he disavows Mr Wright then he will alienate a significant number of people who had to be conviced BHO was "black enough". By disavowing Mr Write's conspiracy theories BHO becomes more like whitey. Not good.

If he fails to disavow Mr Wright then Barak Hussein Obama alienates the whites who support him because they believe he's a "magic negro" rather than the more threatening (to them) African-American man.

If BHO says he just attended Mr Right's church for social reasons then he alienates the Christians who don't like it when people use their religion for social climbing & politics (though it is probably more common than attending church for religious purposes!).

IF BHO says he agrees with Mr Write's theology and attended for sincere worship then BHO alienates traditional whitey Christians.

The best thing that can happen to Barak Hussen Obama is that time brings some other tempest in a teapot forward that engages his opponent defensively and that Mr Wright STFU.

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I guess it gets traction with educated blacks because they recall the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.
Not to be dismissive, but I would think most EDUCATED
blacks would be able to discern the difference from a single documented (admittedly horrible) incident that occurred in the 1940s from a modern. groundless, wild conspiracy theory.

Wouldn't you?
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He's a force to be reckoned with. I imagine if Obama tries to shut him up, then the fur will really fly. He won't stand down for anybody, even Obama.
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...He won't stand down for anybody, even Obama.
Some friend he is. Good grief.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:07 AM
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He's slooowly turning on the spit.


Today's WSJ

Rev. Wright's Return
April 29, 2008; Page A12

Anyone raised amid the wisdom of mothers knows well the dictum that "some people just talk too much." Meet the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

At the moment, Rev. Wright is out in public saying whatever happens to be on his mind. It is not a coincidence that at least some of what is on Rev. Wright's mind and tongue may be pushing Barack Obama's presidential candidacy into a ditch.


Rev. Wright spoke to the NAACP convention Sunday in Detroit, was interviewed Friday evening on TV by Bill Moyers and showed up yesterday in Washington at the National Press Club, where his Q&A session with reporters is an instant Internet video hit. The controversy is such that the Associated Press has taken to running stories headlined, "Excerpts from recent appearances by Jeremiah Wright."

The last time around this track, Barack Obama responded with a long speech meditating on the status of race in America. It was both an interesting speech and an attempt to get the Wright mess behind him. Now just yesterday Rev. Wright said that Senator Obama has neither denounced him nor distanced himself from the pastor but instead "did what politicians do."

Meanwhile, more inflammatory remarks by Rev. Wright from past sermons are coming to light, and he has taken to explaining away everything as "soundbites" taken out of context. Past some point that doesn't fly, and we are past that point. On Sunday, John McCain said Rev. Wright's commentary is likely to be "a political issue." The Obama campaign cracked back that Mr. McCain had broken his word to run a "respectful campaign."

This won't wash. The one fact that Senator Obama can't undo is that he was a member of Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. Jeremiah Wright is insisting on making this long relationship an issue in the 2008 presidential campaign, and many voters understandably want clarity on the subject from candidate Obama.

Early in his campaign, Senator Obama earned support from many voters with the notion that he wanted to transcend racial politics. Rev. Wright is exacerbating them in a way not seen in recent years. Barack Obama cannot remain on both sides of this. He has to make a decision. He is not running for national Mediator. He is running for President. In time, that job brings tough decisions. He's there now.

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Not to be dismissive, but I would think most EDUCATED
blacks would be able to discern the difference from a single documented (admittedly horrible) incident that occurred in the 1940s from a modern. groundless, wild conspiracy theory.

Wouldn't you?
a single documented incident in the unfortunate saga of the blacks in the Americas. Obama is educated and I would guess he thinks things like this are still possible, otherwise he would have stopped going to the church. I would love to hear what Woody Allen thinks about this, he really understands 'America'.

I just don't understand how anyone could go to that church, listening to that man rant and rave and scold would be too much for me. I believe Wrights mum was one of the first black vice-principals in the School District of Philadelphia, I bet she was good!
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I guess it gets traction with educated blacks because they recall the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.
The difference is that with the Tuskegee Experiment, the US finally acknowledged the truth.
With the AIDS myth, it is entirely a lie made up by people who hated America ( USSR/KGB). I would think that once that has been shown to be a complete fabrication any further positive reference is a willfil siding with those sinster forces ( USSR/KGB) who hated America. Or ignorance. Or exploitation....
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a single documented incident in the unfortunate saga of the blacks in the Americas. Obama is educated and I would guess he thinks things like this are still possible, otherwise he would have stopped going to the church. I would love to hear what Woody Allen thinks about this, he really understands 'America'.

I just don't understand how anyone could go to that church, listening to that man rant and rave and scold would be too much for me. I believe Wrights mum was one of the first black vice-principals in the School District of Philadelphia, I bet she was good!
Have you listened to Barak Hussein Obama's news conference? He commented on this very subject.

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Right. His statements on the subject are over the top, but what do people expect? Our government did some really, really bad things. Do people really expect that there won't be lingering hostility about it?
Healing these rifts will take many more years. Add to that the fact that walking/driving while black is much more likely to invite police surveillance/interaction than for other races, it's definitely going to take a long time for black people to relax and think rationally.

Wright loves the spotlight, I disliked the guy the instant I saw the video clips, bombastic and thundering while reading from a text -- contrived all to hell.

The only thing I can say in his support, he's done a fair amount of inspiring black people to lift themselves up by their bootstraps. I believe he is correct in pointing out that our supposedly Christian nation doesn't seem to get the old line 'as ye sow so shall ye reap' and that we are way too certain that God is in our corner at all times, no matter what.

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