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Old 07-18-2008, 08:29 PM
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So you don't get it either? You've never played a video game with levels? Or how about the geography test that was posted here recently that had levels? That's what I meant by "level" and I think that's what the article is talking about. I don't know how to explain that any more clearly. I almost feel like I'm talking to a bunch of 3-year-olds here.
Using a video game analogy and you feel like you are educating a bunch of three year olds? That is one of the funnier things you have written thusfar.

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Old 07-18-2008, 08:40 PM
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"25% scored at or below the lowest level. "

More properly, "25% scored near the lowest level."
Damn, you just had to fix it--OP was proving the point of the title of the thread perfectly
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Using a video game analogy and you feel like you are educating a bunch of three year olds? That is one of the funnier things you have written thusfar.
What, you've never played a video game? You must be smart!
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What, you've never played a video game? You must be smart!
Back when I bought an Apple II+ I bought a 16K language card boosting the total memory to 64k. I used it to learn how to program in the up-and-coming language of the future, Pascal. The Pascal version for the Apple II (licensed by UCSD) compiled to something called p-code that itself had to be interpreted into machine language. It was supposed to be faster than Basic, but I couldn't tell any difference. I wrote a program that worked with the control paddles. It was like "Pong!" but slower. Later I compiled some assembly routines that read the paddles and paddle buttons that were called from within the main program. That speeded it up considerably, IIRC.

Haven't played games much since.

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Old 07-19-2008, 01:37 AM
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You focused on the wrong thing.

3rd world ain't as important as ILLEGAL alien.

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Old 07-19-2008, 09:44 AM
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And just how would they determine the immigration status of the people involved. Schools are prohibited by law from asking for immigration papers. Pretence is made of due process by asking for several months utilitiy bills in the name of a parent or guardian, shot records - not necessarily US ones, and so forth. In a part of the country where over 50 percent of the inhabittants are foreigners and as I stated before in some schools, over 90 percent it's meaningless to talk of what the local taxpayers think. Most of the parents can't vote so there is nobody to revolt. The few left over citizens are pissed off any some speak out, but as the demographics are already overwhelmingly foreign their voices are meaningless.

Referring to the original topic. In this environment where you are already essentially a foreign country educating a foreign populace of third world peasants who are english-illiterate pretending that you are part of the American public school system is meaningless.

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A very sad state of affairs.
Indeed. Nevada has its own big share of hispanics, a lot of them illegal. But they're not the reason our health care is crap.
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Back when I bought an Apple II+ I bought a 16K language card boosting the total memory to 64k. I used it to learn how to program in the up-and-coming language of the future, Pascal. The Pascal version for the Apple II (licensed by UCSD) compiled to something called p-code that itself had to be interpreted into machine language. It was supposed to be faster than Basic, but I couldn't tell any difference. I wrote a program that worked with the control paddles. It was like "Pong!" but slower. Later I compiled some assembly routines that read the paddles and paddle buttons that were called from within the main program. That speeded it up considerably, IIRC.

Haven't played games much since.

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I just wish we had a government that protected our borders like its supposed to do in the Constitution.

Time for a new government.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:50 PM
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It seems that you still don't understand what I was saying. I understood Paul's comment perfectly. He's saying no one can perform below the lowest level. Well, that depends on the definition of level, doesn't it? It could be level as in the lowest test score in a group (in which case I'd agree with Paul), or level as in grade, meaning those scoring below the lowest level got an F, which is what I had in mind.
So, in your second example, "F" is truly the lowest level, correct?
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And the ignorant 3rd world illegal aliens that drag down my local school system.
You sure it's not the white kids dragging down the illegal aliens?
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ask the Native Americans who the illegal aliens are. seems like history is easy to forget when it is unpleasant. To be honest, most Mexicans have a heritage and ancestry that give them more right to be here than any european descendants FWIW I am german/irish
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You sure it's not the white kids dragging down the illegal aliens?
I don't know.

Maybe if we send the illegal ones back to where they are legal we could find out.

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Here is one for experts ...


Brazil official's Nazi reference rocks WTO talks

By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER, Associated Press Writer 46 minutes ago


GENEVA - Some pre-negotiation jabbing turned into a potentially damaging diplomatic incident Saturday when Brazil's foreign minister said rich countries' deception in trade talks reminded him of tactics used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.

His comments drew a sharp rebuke from the United States, whose chief trade negotiator, Susan Schwab, is the daughter of Jewish Holocaust survivors. Her spokesman described the reference to Goebbels as "incredibly wrong."
The controversy threatens to overshadow next week's last-ditch effort to save seven years of frustrating talks on a new global trade pact toward alleviating poverty around the world.
The so-called Doha trade round is already teetering on the brink of collapse. President Bush has made a Doha deal a key part of his trade agenda.
Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim said the U.S., Europe and other wealthy economies have so frequently misrepresented the talks launched in Qatar's capital in 2001 that public perception has become totally warped.
"Goebbels used to say if you repeat a lie several times it becomes a truth," Amorim told reporters at the World Trade Organization, where top negotiators from over two dozen countries are expected Monday for the official start of the talks.
Poorer countries have demanded cuts in the farm tariffs and subsidies used by wealthy countries, saying they hinder Third World development. In exchange, rich countries have insisted on better market access in developing countries for their manufacturers and service providers.
Amorim implied that rich countries were employing Goebbels' lying tactics in describing the agricultural concessions they claim they are willing to make, while criticizing poorer countries for refusing to liberalize their industrial markets.
"I am reminded of Goebbels," said Amorim, whose country has co-led with India a broad coalition of developing countries at the WTO talks.
Later, his spokesman qualified the remarks and apologized to Schwab.
Sean Spicer, spokesman for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, said he was horrified by the "personal venom" of Amorim's words.
"We came here to Geneva to negotiate on substance," Spicer told The Associated Press. "For him to make remarks like this is so incredibly wrong. They are insulting."
Spicer noted that Schwab visited Amorim to soothe tensions immediately after negotiations collapsed in acrimony in 2006.
In an interview with the AP, Amorim's spokesman Ricardo Neiva Tavares said the minister "regrets if Susan Schwab or anyone else was upset by his comments on a historical fact. He certainly did not intend to hurt anyone's feelings, which he deeply respects."
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I don't know.

Maybe if we send the illegal ones back to where they are legal we could find out.

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