geez, how can they even think about doing this

Faster, more reliable checkout on eBay
Starting this fall, we're moving to an electronic checkout process that's faster and more reliable for sellers and buyers. As part of this move, checks and money orders will no longer be accepted on eBay, although buyers can still use these payment methods for item pick-up, at the seller's discretion. In addition, the electronic payment methods will be fully integrated into eBay checkout. For example, if a seller has an internet merchant account, a buyer will be able to directly enter a credit card and never have to leave the site.

link to the horse's a$$ mouth
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200808.shtml#2008-08-15145546

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These people seem to be able to do anything they please.........regardless of the wishes or the needs of the customer base. Onerous rules, very high fees, limiting payment options, lifting negative feedback, requiring linked Paypal accounts..........all designed to feed their pocketbook.

Unfortunately, since they are a veritable monopoly, they have the power to do as they please.

Personally, I'm sick and tired of the SOB's. I lost a very fine W-140 due to their failure to maintain a linked Paypal account...........it appears that this software is not quite up to par with them.

Nothing like insiting(sp) the masses for a good riot! Hopefully this won't go into effect and if it does I'll go back to good old fasioned garage sales and local flea markets. Makes it hard for someone who doesn't use credit cards.

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All I use ebay for, is to gauge the going value of items, then I sell them on CL for free .

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Use a debit card.

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As opposed to you also being able to sell there as you please? If their customer base shrinks, perhaps they will change their ways. If not, it means it is going as they want.

I don't know why people have such a problem with Ebay. I perhaps have been lucky and never run across them except maybe once when they buyer took his time responding and I sold it to someone else.

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You......perhaps.......don't have any problems with anybody or any entity. You expect the worst.........and you normally get somewhat better than the worst..........therefore, by definition..........you never have a problem.

Others don't think similarly..........

Unlike Aklim, I experience the occasional other problem, but ebay isn't one of them for me either, because I have absolutely no reason to use the ....?service?

I did purchase four crystal clarets on there several years ago, and when I saw the buy it now + shipping cost was $150 less than what I could do locally, I pulled the trigger, an hour into the sale and before a single bid was made. Several folks laughed at me for that--including my wife. I saved a trip to a store and $150. Go egay!

Several dedicated egayers made so much of my purchase, I printed out the You Won! page and have it framed in my office

Depends on the seller. I have seen folks selling items for 15 to 30% over what I can get the same stuff for locally and then i have seen very good deals on items i would have to order from across the country or internationally.

it all depends.

I pick up very good off lease laptops at 20% of original price and turn them around for local folks as an alternative to the manufacturers outrageous financing costs. Lots of the working class guys and gals I know have to get a good laptop for their kids for school and think they are getting a "deal" from Dell Finance. Sure if you like paying 29% interest and late fees that make the mafia look cheap!

But when I see somebody selling Craftsman tool sets at a higher price that they are on sale at Sears or obviously stolen Hilti tools I get really mad...but I just go elsewhere.

From what I can tell, 50 to 65% of the professional power tools on Ebay are either stolen or insurance scams by professional crews. Hilti tells me that they get a lot of folks comming in with tools that turn out to have been reported stolen in AZ or CA.

Seems this type of scam has risen with the economy!

But I want no part of it...

Anyway if you know what you want and what it is really worth and what the local price is you can make an informed decision to buy or not.

But Ebay is in the end, a corporation that makes its send off the thieves and then says "All we are is the venue, not the seller" which has been held up in court many times.

Aah, remember the old days of the Internet?

I wish I could fire up the Wayback machine and take a trip with Sherman and Peabody!

By YOUR defination, perhaps. What you seem to say is that because I think you are going to be an azzhole and you fulfill that role well by splashing red paint on my house, I won't have a problem that? Yes, I wouldn't be emotionally disappointed because you splashed my house with red paint but I don't see how that negates what you have done. There is a difference between being emotionally disappointed with the person/entity and being upset with what has happened.

I have set up myself on paypal with a checking account and a credit card. So far, I haven't had an issue with Ebay although I do expect them to do something silly once in a while. Or to make that clearer, I haven't had any "gotcha" moments with their procedures.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

eBay/PayPal don't like losing that 3% fee they make on PayPal transactions! I am also still completely befuddled by the feedback change (sellers can no longer leave feedback for bad buyers). Oh well... it was fun while it lasted.

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I would be befuddled too. Where is that at? I don't see it. I checked the "help" section and this is the closest I can get to it:

Buyers must wait at least seven days before leaving a negative or neutral Feedback for a PowerSeller who has been registered on eBay for at least 12 months.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

I think csmc1 is referring to a change made a while back: sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers.

Sellers can still leave positive feedback for buyers, but if the text of the feedback comment is "negative" in nature, it is subject to removal by eBay.

Again, what is that written in the rules or announcements? I would like to take a look at it instead of having it 3rd or 4th party.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

One could dig around and find it in the eBay announcements.

It's not just that sellers aren't supposed to leave negative feedback for buyers. The option to leave negative feedback for a buyer simply does not exist any more!

ETA: http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200805191013132.html

That announcement includes a link back to when it was originally announced back in January.