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Old 02-20-2009, 07:06 PM
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This statement's irony is best appreciated by simultaneously glancing at the list of his family's motor cars.
No its not, because a Mercedes is one of the best cars. While a MAC is nothing more than a PC in a pretty case.

If you put a MB shell on top of a GM product, its still a GM underneath.
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Macbook here... about three years old. No problems. Rarely turn it off. It just works. I love it. I surf the web, even "questionable" sites without virus protection.

OSX is NOT linux. It does have a unix core (unix, not linux). But whatever is at it's core remains well hidden away from me by the brilliant interface that Apple has created.

You know, a Camry is a fine car, but I choose to drive an older MB instead. And Windows ain't no Camry.... (IMO)

I've yet to meet someone who switched to a Mac who hasn't been happy with their choice despite some of the comments posted here.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:58 AM
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I just rebuilt both mine and my wife's PCs today for less than $550, and that included a new 19" LCD for her (I already have a 20" ) We both have identical systems except that I have a faster CPU (Black Edition AMD 7750) and better/bigger hard drives) Hers is beyond fast for what she needs, so she should be set for a while. The main goal for hers was to be cool and quiet....it runs so cool with the Athlon X2 4400+ that the CPU fan shuts down half the time! As in it comes to a complete halt! Crazy efficient. The rest of the time its running at like 800rpm....its essentially dead silent unless you put your ear against the case.

She is running Windows 7beta and likes it. I have XP still due to some older devices I need.....eventually I'll move to 7 though.

Bah to MACs.....they are unnecessary and waaay too expensive. When you can build an apple to your own tastes for under $300 and get a good performing system out of it....then I will be interested.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:00 AM
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I just rebuilt both mine and my wife's PCs today for less than $550, and that included a new 19" LCD for her (I already have a 20" ) We both have identical systems except that I have a faster CPU (Black Edition AMD 7750) and better/bigger hard drives) Hers is beyond fast for what she needs, so she should be set for a while. The main goal for hers was to be cool and quiet....it runs so cool with the Athlon X2 4400+ that the CPU fan shuts down half the time! As in it comes to a complete halt! Crazy efficient. The rest of the time its running at like 800rpm....its essentially dead silent unless you put your ear against the case.

She is running Windows 7beta and likes it. I have XP still due to some older devices I need.....eventually I'll move to 7 though.

Bah to MACs.....they are unnecessary and waaay too expensive. When you can build an apple to your own tastes for under $300 and get a good performing system out of it....then I will be interested.
I think that the point Appleholics feel is important is that they have no wish to know how to build a computer. They don't care about tweaking this to get that. They just want an appliance, not a hobby.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:08 AM
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I think that the point Appleholics feel is important is that they have no wish to know how to build a computer. They don't care about tweaking this to get that. They just want an appliance, not a hobby.
However, a lot of them certainly carry an overwhelming amount of "look at me with my MAC" pride.....not all, but many....and thats just annoying. They have no clue how it works or anything, they just like to brag about their spiffy appliance.
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However, a lot of them certainly carry an overwhelming amount of "look at me with my MAC" pride.....not all, but many....and thats just annoying. They have no clue how it works or anything, they just like to brag about their spiffy appliance.
Most Mercedes owners do the same thing.

You're just jealous!
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However, a lot of them certainly carry an overwhelming amount of "look at me with my MAC" pride.....not all, but many....and thats just annoying. They have no clue how it works or anything, they just like to brag about their spiffy appliance.
No question.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:12 AM
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I just rebuilt both mine and my wife's PCs today for less than $550, and that included a new 19" LCD for her (I already have a 20" ) We both have identical systems except that I have a faster CPU (Black Edition AMD 7750) and better/bigger hard drives) Hers is beyond fast for what she needs, so she should be set for a while. The main goal for hers was to be cool and quiet....it runs so cool with the Athlon X2 4400+ that the CPU fan shuts down half the time! As in it comes to a complete halt! Crazy efficient. The rest of the time its running at like 800rpm....its essentially dead silent unless you put your ear against the case.

She is running Windows 7beta and likes it. I have XP still due to some older devices I need.....eventually I'll move to 7 though.

Bah to MACs.....they are unnecessary and waaay too expensive. When you can build an apple to your own tastes for under $300 and get a good performing system out of it....then I will be interested.
Geez, always be hating on macs....


Its good to have an open mind about things, especially computers. Some things my Mac can do better than my Windows machine, and my Windows machine can do some things better than my Mac....
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I just rebuilt both mine and my wife's PCs today for less than $550, and that included a new 19" LCD for her (I already have a 20" ) We both have identical systems except that I have a faster CPU (Black Edition AMD 7750) and better/bigger hard drives) Hers is beyond fast for what she needs, so she should be set for a while. The main goal for hers was to be cool and quiet....it runs so cool with the Athlon X2 4400+ that the CPU fan shuts down half the time! As in it comes to a complete halt! Crazy efficient. The rest of the time its running at like 800rpm....its essentially dead silent unless you put your ear against the case.

She is running Windows 7beta and likes it. I have XP still due to some older devices I need.....eventually I'll move to 7 though.

Bah to MACs.....they are unnecessary and waaay too expensive. When you can build an apple to your own tastes for under $300 and get a good performing system out of it....then I will be interested.
I am still gaming with the 4200+ I bought years and years ago. I had to upgrade the video card this year but its still chugging along pretty well. It shows its age sometimes but nowadays games are very GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive. Great processor though, bulletproof.
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I am still gaming with the 4200+ I bought years and years ago. I had to upgrade the video card this year but its still chugging along pretty well. It shows its age sometimes but nowadays games are very GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive. Great processor though, bulletproof.
Yeah her old PC was a temporary AthlonXP 1900+ with 512 ram that I threw together from old parts.....as her Athlon64 2800+ system died a few weeks ago. The 1900+ was just too slow for all the photo stuff she does. So she finally approved of our computer upgrades. My system was a dual core opteron 170.....it was fast enough....but age was getting the best of it and the motherboard was having stability issues. I got sick of it crashing every few days.

Right now I am just using onboard graphics, the ATI Radeon 3200HD graphics are amazingly powerful for being onboard. For now its plenty for me, it runs unreal tournament perfectly......if I need more power in the future I have an open slot for a nice powerful graphics card.
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Hehehe, I have a 6000+. Things a beast with a small O/C to 3.4....



Definitely better at gaming than my MacBook...
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If i had the bones I'd get a new Intel CPU but that means i need new ram, motherboard, and might as well buy new video card... bla bla ends up being 600 bucks or so. Might as well just buy a PS3 or Xbox360.
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Cost is still a factor. Can you walk into Best Buy with $400 - $500 and walk out with a complete Apple desktop system, possibly with a printer and all the cables thrown in to boot, and still have spare change? Don't think so.
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Agreed. And the $400 to $500 best buy system is a low-end system. As I said, Apple doesn't make low end systems. You want low end, you can't buy a Mac. You want midrange or high end, the Macs are competitive on cost. I could say more about productivity, enjoyment, etc... but really, what's the point? If someone doesn't want a Mac, they shouldn't buy one. If someone is thinking about it, they should realize that the cost of a Mac is about the same as for a comparably configured PC. All the back and forth about which one is "better" and which fanboy is the bigger ******* is silly.
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Low end mac?

A friend I had in High School...his dad runs this site:

http://lowendmac.com/


Anyways, to each their own.......like I said before, my main qualm is how Apple does business. Like locking up their iPhone and trying to keep everything under their control....like a communist gov.
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