How good are the new Toyota Tundra's?

[Hatterasguy]

This isn't a Toyota forum, but you guys seem to know a little about everything. Any word on the new Tundra's? They seem to be a nice truck, just expensive like all Toyota's.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=256253761&dealer_id=623374&car_year=2007&rdm=1231811010328&model=TUNDRA&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=100&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=TOYOTA&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=06460&advanced=y&end_year=2010&doors=Two+Door&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=120

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=254663874&dealer_id=1360560&car_year=2007&rdm=1231811010328&model=TUNDRA&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=100&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=TOYOTA&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=06460&advanced=y&end_year=2010&doors=Two+Door&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=82

Toyota doesn't really seem to understand the core of US truck buyers, so you have to search for the 8ft bed basic one. The Toyota dealers in CT won't even sell them, or at least they wouldn't last year. This year they may be singing a different tune. They are only interested in $35k luxury trucks.

But I like the Toyota's, and the older body style too:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=249558885&dealer_id=623374&car_year=2006&rdm=1231811010328&model=TUNDRA&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=100&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=TOYOTA&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=06460&advanced=y&end_year=2010&doors=Two+Door&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=120

Looks like they put the oil filter on top, which is nice.

[powerpig]

How the hell should we know? This is a Mercedes forum, not a "Bubba" Truck Forum. (Sorry, couldn't resist)

[Hatterasguy]

Have you seen the Toyota forums? If it doesn't involve a sticker or some kind of wheel question they are useless.

[powerpig]

On a serious note, you may want to look at the Nissan Titan's. When I bought my wife's Xterra this past August, I was offered a brand new one with a sticker of $32,000 for $15,500 out the door. A guy who works for me bought a Titan a couple of years ago and really likes it.

[Hatterasguy]

Hmm, I will look. I'm not a big fan of Nissan products though. My friends wife has a 2005 Altima she bought new, and takes really good care of it. I mean she will freak if she goes 50 miles over on a service. But at just about 100k miles the interior isn't holding up so well.


Edit: Just looked, won't work. I need an 8ft bed and I don't want a king cab. Nissan is worse than Toyota. They also don't offer a 6 cylinder.

[86560SEL]

As a Toyota/Lexus fan/owner I am on alot of Toyota forums and they are good trucks. They seem to be par with the other big trucks.

I had a 2000 Tundra (V8, 4wd) that I loved and regret selling. It had 107K miles, but ran like it had 40K. Rode very nice for a full-size truck as well.

The only bad thing I know about the early Tundras were transmission failures were common on the 2000-02 models and cracked manifolds were common.

Otherwise excellent trucks, but if I buy another Toyota truck (and I will someday), it will probably be a 1996-98 T100. Not as nearly as big and powerful as the Tundra, but these are virtually bulletproof.

[Hatterasguy]

Well whatever I buy won't be older than 06, I would prefer an 07 or 08. Do the new ones still crack manifolds or did they fix that?

I just don't know if they are worth the extra money. For what a 20k mile Tundra costs I can get a brand new 0 mile F150. My dad has driven F150's since the late 70's and swears by them.

[KarTek]

The GF has a 2004 double cab 4x4 with the V8.

Likes:

Super quiet, smooth ride. Even nicer than my E300.
Perfect build quality.
Excellent servicability under the hood - extremely easy to replace spark plugs, etc...

Dislikes:

Shifts at an annoyingly high RPM even if there's not a lot of demand.
Fairly low MPG 15-17 combined.
Oil filter is on the bottom. You have to take the skid plate off to change it.
Kind of soul-less and sterile.
Somewhat gutless for a V8.

The last year of this body style had a more powerfull V8.

[Matt SD300]

Hatt..Come on, It's a Toyota...Truly one of the best automobile builder's in the world............

[C280 Sport]

The garage that takes care of my non Mercedes cars(2004 Dodge Caravan SXT:29,000 MILES and a 1995 GMC Jimmy SLT 4WD:80,000 miles) The guy at the garage who does towing said he had to tow a brand new Toyota Tundra wil under 100 miles on it. It just stalled in the middle of the road. Who knows maybe he has a bad one. Personally I have never owneda Toyota but I hear lots of good and bad about them.

[Hatterasguy]

Originally Posted by KarTek

The GF has a 2004 double cab 4x4 with the V8.

Likes:

Super quiet, smooth ride. Even nicer than my E300.
Perfect build quality.
Excellent servicability under the hood - extremely easy to replace spark plugs, etc...

Dislikes:

Shifts at an annoyingly high RPM even if there's not a lot of demand.
Fairly low MPG 15-17 combined.
Oil filter is on the bottom. You have to take the skid plate off to change it.
Kind of soul-less and sterile.
Somewhat gutless for a V8.

The last year of this body style had a more powerfull V8.

Thats about what I expected, I know a few people with them and the biggest complaint is so so mileage.

Look at the pictures of the new V6, that looks like a remote oil filter on the right front of the engine.

The problem with domestic trucks is they try to burry the engine down low, to make them handle like a Ferrari or something. So working on them is hard. Toyota still puts them higher so you can get to stuff.

[kmaysob]

i own a tacoma. i absolutely love it. however my next truck will be the tundra. i cant really tell you any good or bad on it though. my second choice would be the f150 or 250

[Bill Wood]

I have a 2005 Tundra Doublecab and really like it. The 2005 and 2006 V8's do have more power than the earlier ones. It's got a 6ft bed and a huge 4 door cab which is exactly what I wanted. Mine is the basic SR5 model with few options. Pretty much everything I wanted was standard except keyless entry and the better sound system. I get 18-20mpg on the highway. 16 around town. I keep records on all gas and maintenance just like in my Mercedes. I also use Mobil-1 just like in my Mercedes!

It's a very solid well built truck. Nothing flashy. No leaks or squeaks. Very good quality all around. My brother-in-law rode in mine one time and the next time I saw him he had bought a 2006 exactly like mine except he got 4WD.

[450slcguy]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Edit: Just looked, won't work. I need an 8ft bed and I don't want a king cab. Nissan is worse than Toyota. They also don't offer a 6 cylinder.

I can't say about the newer ones, but I have a 2004 standard cab, 8' bed, 6cylinder engine, A/C, auto. It's been flawless. The only slight negative is the mpg. I only get about 15 mpg around town, maybe 17-18 highway, and I have a very light foot. I did buy a cap for it, that might account for the lower MPG.

I agree they are a very hard truck to find. Same thing here, the dealers were loaded with 35,000+ trucks. Mine was the Sunday paper promo ad, 1 in stock. Sticker was close to 18k, paid 14k out the door. Didn't even try talking them down, I felt like I stole it.

If you find one, buy it. It may not have many bells or whistles, but A/C and auto is all you really need for a work/utility truck. Change the oil,filters and rotate the tires and it will last a long long time.

[86560SEL]

Yeah, I think that by 2003 that they fixed the manifolds issue and it did not effect all of the older ones. My 2000 never had the problem.

If you can afford a 2007+ model (obviously you can), get that over the 2006. I have actually heard more complaints about the 2005-06 models in terms complaints than the 2000-04 models. Seems that those years (despite being the same basic truck as the 2000-04 models) had some interior squeaks/rattles issues. One guy had the dealer remove his entire interior, even the headliner. There was something omitted in the headliner in his 2006 model that was causing a rattle. Also some had complaints of a dash rattle on most all years because a pad that should have been placed between the dash and firewall, but some did not have a problem at all... even my 2000 Tundra never had a problem. It was totally squeak and rattle free. I would not mind having a 2007+, but its not in my budget now. I have actually been kicking the idea of a 2001-2002 Lexus LS430.

The new Fords are nice. I even thought about a new 08' model. Our dealer is selling base models as low as $12K right now! Only negatives I can think of with the Ford is the terrible low resell value and someone said they use much more gas than the other big trucks, even the V6 model only gets about 16 mpg in town.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Well whatever I buy won't be older than 06, I would prefer an 07 or 08. Do the new ones still crack manifolds or did they fix that?

I just don't know if they are worth the extra money. For what a 20k mile Tundra costs I can get a brand new 0 mile F150. My dad has driven F150's since the late 70's and swears by them.