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Not really. A lot of muslims are settling in those countries as they are in the rest of Europe.
They are certainly less racially diverse than, oh hell, just about anywhere else on earth except for Japan. The muslim immigration is still not large enough percentage wise to significantly alter the stats the article was mentioning.

Being an atheist I completely agree with the premise though. In general the less religion the better off the society.

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Godlessness worked wonders for Russia, China, and Cambodia.
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Godlessness worked wonders for Russia, China, and Cambodia.
None of them were ever godless. It's just that in those cases the old testament dude, you know smiting and genociding etc, came on down and assumed a human form.

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None of them were ever godless. It's just that in those cases the old testament dude, you know smiting and genociding etc, came on down and assumed a human form.

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My bad, I thought that they were de jure and de facto, atheist.
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My bad, I thought that they were de jure and de facto, atheist.
As Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins etc have pointed out many time being Atheist simply mens you dont believe in the existance of any supernatural being. It says nothing whatever about what you do with that knowledge.

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As Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins etc have pointed out many time being Atheist simply mens you dont believe in the existance of any supernatural being. It says nothing whatever about what you do with that knowledge.

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Exactly the same argument whether religion (or lack of) or a loaded gun. I'm in.
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Religon and war have gone hand in hand since their beginnings.

The staunchest religous people I know are also the most miserable.
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Religon and war have gone hand in hand since their beginnings.

The staunchest religous people I know are also the most miserable.
Positively manic.
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The staunchest religous people I know are also the most miserable.
X2. Also the biggest douchebags.
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None of them were ever godless. It's just that in those cases the old testament dude, you know smiting and genociding etc, came on down and assumed a human form.

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That's right. Religiosity was merely suppressed in those places. China probably has more christians than the US but those who don't go to the state-sponsored churches have to go underground. Anyway, I think most would agree that nowadays terrorism fueled by religious fanaticism is a much bigger problem than communism or atheism. In fact atheism or religion on its own is never a problem, it's what you do with it like you say.
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They are certainly less racially diverse than, oh hell, just about anywhere else on earth except for Japan. The muslim immigration is still not large enough percentage wise to significantly alter the stats the article was mentioning.

Being an atheist I completely agree with the premise though. In general the less religion the better off the society.

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Well, France is already 5 or 10% muslim. Holland is probably not far behind. I don't know specifically about Denmark and Sweden, but I know a lot of Iraqi refugees have resettled in Sweden and Denmark has had its own share of problems with conservative muslim values of immigrants colliding with traditional Danish secularity.
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