Nuclear weapons a pandora's box, just because some countries have them does not mean everyone should

Stopping there spread is important.

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Boots on the ground would be a bad idea in Korea, the American public cannot stomich such wars anymore. In an attack on North Korea we would probably have more KIA in the first month than in Iraq 1 & 2, and Afghanistan combined.

External pressure to help the internal along is the most affective.

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No right to bear arms?

The more countries who have them the more the chances of them using them increases.

Iran would love to lob one at Isreal, that would be a wet dream to there insane leaders.

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You mean they will test another sub-1kiloton firecracker? I'm not the least bit worried about the nuclear capabilities of a 3rd world country like N Korea. The "information" they would have available to sell isn't even comparable to what we had in the 1940's.

I like Mr. Kim Jong Il, but lets see reality here and understand that in a world of 70-150 megaton capability (US and Russia) their bomb of 1/100,000th the power is no threat to anyone. We would knock out anything they send our way the instant it passes the international water line.

Like Iraq, Iran, Israel, etc they aren't a threat to anyone but themselves and their immediate neighbors.

So, the concept that if everyone were armed in equal proportion, it would be a safer place does not apply to the world?

Itīs not the nation-states having nuclear weapons that is the nightmare, itīs the unaffiliated militants that are the scare . . . who do you retaliate against in a MAD scenario.

This only comes to mind by drawing the outdated WW2 comparison. Either is already way back on par and well in charge on the world stage. They came in through the back door, when nobody was looking and pandering the fading glory of WW2.

Their secret weapon is economical and innovative leadership, which will break through even more in the upcoming future. Motto: Let someone else do the dirty work.

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This is only superficially and partially correct. I wouldn't recommend to be naive enough and convey an idea of attacking either Japan or, in an other case, Germany. One might be in for an unwelcome surprise.

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I don't think so. No country is likely to use them. More likely is some small dirty bomb type weapon used by people not affiliated with a government.
Every country wants them, and they want them so they can't be bullied.

Iran would not love to lob one at Israel. They know what that would mean. Nor are there leaders insane. Totalitarians to be sure, but not insane.

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is it your argument that nations and people operate by the same moral imperatives? If that is how you believe then it stands to reason that any nation should possess nukes if it wishes. But I rather doubt that you are willing to argue that people and institutions are of the same manner of being.

I hope you are right. Believing that the leadership in every country behaves rationally is a great comfort.

It is pretty rare that truly irrational people become leaders of countries. Not never, but in the course of human events, rare. It took thousands of years for Hitler to appear.

It seems that humanity in general over the course of 60 some years has understood the impact of atomic weapons.

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NP they will sell one to a third party. HAMAS would love to get there hands on one, and would be very happy to use it.

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Your definition of insanity is much narrower than mine.

It was scary as hell living through the Cold War. A return to that mentality would be horrible.

The idea that a particular state might launch an attack is much less worrisome to me than the potential of a nuke state using a surrogate stateless group (one with with international connects and messianic aspirations, say) to deliver a small nuke to a party in a large metropolitan concentration of sinners, apostates, infidels and homosexuals.

I travel to both countries frequently, have relatives in Germany and Japan and I teach there as well. I can tell you with contention, neuter is an understatement there with the youth. In case of Japan, it would be few hours and they would capitulate in case China attacks and in case of Germany, they would let the Russians in and welcome them with bier and bratwurst.

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