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Old 06-05-2009, 02:37 PM
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Do you think the Chinese government has been weakened?
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:05 PM
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Do you think the Chinese government has been weakened?
We cannot confuse the Chinese with Communism. They TALK Communism but act like robber baron Capitalists of the kind that had Marx and Engels in a twist. Low wages, harsh conditions, no vacations... sounds like a Worker's paradise to me...

What China has become is a one party POLICE STATE

I don't think for all their faults the Cubans are anywhere as restrictive or as brutal as the Chinese. I don't think the Cuban people would put up with what the Chinese do.

I also think that ignoring the island is not getting us anywhere. Heck we deal with VIETNAM and they beat us in a war!

I would love to see a Free Cuba (no Castros and no Batistas either) a government run along the lines of what their Constitution actually says.
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What China has become is a one party POLICE STATE
So it was before we opened our economy to them.

If human rights are a concern, the time to negotiate for better conditions is before you give these totalitarian states what they're after.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:06 PM
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We cannot confuse the Chinese with Communism. They TALK Communism but act like robber baron Capitalists of the kind that had Marx and Engels in a twist. Low wages, harsh conditions, no vacations... sounds like a Worker's paradise to me...

What China has become is a one party POLICE STATE




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So it was before we opened our economy to them.

If human rights are a concern, the time to negotiate for better conditions is before you give these totalitarian states what they're after.

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Old 06-05-2009, 03:19 PM
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Do you think the Chinese government has been weakened?
I didn't sasy the government. I said communism. Also, I thing the Chinese seem to have a much more conservative, cautious approach to capitalism. Whereas the Soviets basically threw up their hands and said, "Okay, this isn't working so noow we'll become capitalists and try to look like a democracy." the Chinese seem to be building their industry and economy more carefully and thoughtfully.

That is my underinformed opinion.
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http://www.opencuba.org/

The travel industry is trying to get Obama to open the door to Cuba and end the 50 year old travel ban.

I am all for this...

Meet me in Havana for Mojitos on the Malecón
I just want some cigars fresh from the roller's fingers.
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:20 PM
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I just want some cigars fresh from the roller's fingers.
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:50 PM
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See ya there, Swamp!
Okay, maybe a little rum, too?!
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Okay, maybe a little rum, too?!
Mojitos, fresh Cuban cigars......Do they have golf courses?
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My BIL is having a gallery showing this weekend in NJ, featuring works from his trips to Cuba and South FL . . . interesting contrasts in the communities.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:09 PM
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My BIL is having a gallery showing this weekend in NJ, featuring works from his trips to Cuba and South FL . . . interesting contrasts in the communities.

Is there a way to see all of it on here? The teaser pic's look tantalizing, fascinating.
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