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The day I baked those first loaves in my real oven, I went down to my friends at the bank to give them a sample (they were my taste testers!) and one lady had been after me for quite awhile to add some sweetner to my breads . . . I even had organic honey, from my own hives, but I said "no"! Well I take down these loaves, made with the same recipe I had been using all along, and they all thought that I had finely given in and added honey . . . well I gave them a loaf from the VERY SAME BATCH that I had also baked in my regular Amana range to compare, they just could not believe the differnce! Did the same for my Dad! If you look back to the first post, and scroll down to the picture of the coals in the oven, you will notice no soot in the back corners, that was normal, most of those pictures were taken when I was just experimenting with the oven at first, and I did not know how much fire to put in it . . . or for how long . . . (I just was very excited!) but yes you can also make round ovens, but long rectangle seems to be more effecient, in both burning, and loaf placement . . . No I never used caputo flour, I would just use some extra Pain au Levain dough . . . still was awesome . . . I have thought of building a smaller oven and put it on a tandem trailer, or in the back of an old school bus . . . and go around the county, and sell bread & pizza . . . still haven't done anything yet . . . |
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Caputo comes from Italy and a local Italian market here carries it. But I think that King Arthur's "00" flour is quite similar. It is worth trying but keep in mind that its best qualities will come out with a wood fired brick oven. I don't know if you have tried King Arthur's Sir Galahad flour but if not, it is well worth a try. It has a higher protein content and makes a much more chewy crust and crumb. Shipping of course can be prohibitive when ordering flour, but if you get the King Arthur credit card and use it on an order of $100 or more, shipping is free. The travelling oven sounds like a great idea. You could have a catering service. Awesome. The thing would weigh a lot. Based on the materials you used and their weight, do you know how much a small oven would weigh that you would build in the back of something like a school bus? You might need a beefed up suspension.
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When I lived in VT, KA was 35 mi up the road from me . . . I used Sir Galahad and liked it, KA Artisan Organic was the best for my type of breads (that KA carried) . . .I ended up using Champlain Valley Milling Meadow flour, for artisan naturally leavened loaves a lower protien flower like in the 11% range . . .
Traveling oven should be in the 5,000 - 6,000 pound range, I would not build on as large as the one I built in VT. Edited to add: Right now, since I have just my GE Profile double oven, I have a "Pizza" setting in the upper oven, I pre-heat the oven and a "Pampered Chef" stoneware pizza round which is about 1/2" thick, then I slide my pizza onto that . . .it 's OK, but not like we had in VT! Last edited by Shawn T. W.; 06-28-2009 at 09:10 AM. |
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I remember reading about a guy who converted a gabage truck into a camper. This might be the ticket to support a travelling pizza oven. http://23b.org/gallery/v/23b_members/flea/fleas_misc/fleas_garbage_truck_camper/ You'd have to disguise the garbage truck look though. It might hurt your food business image.
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Well . . . I only remembered it as "Sir Something"!
![]() I do have access to school busses . . .since I'm the transportation director at our school . . . I'd probably pass on the garbage truck idea . . . ![]() I used KA Artisan Organic for my bread at first but ended up switching to CVM meadow organic mostly because I hated the bags KA used for the artisan flour, those rediculous little pour spouts . . . CVM I just yanked a string . . . |
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Forget the stove and cook everything in that oven can save you $$$ in gas or electric bill's, how much did it cost to make that oven?, my mom and dad are hardcore bread bakers but unfortunately we don't have space for a commercial oven
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My next one will be smaller, and about 1/4 the cost, but 1/2 the size! ![]() I used about 1 cord of wood a month for the oven, and more to heat my house! Cut about 20 cord a year . . . that will keep one warm for awhile! My wood was free, except for gas & oil, and well my labor . . . |
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Were you able to redirect any of the heat from the oven back into your house in the winter?
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Here is a graph . . . it is a small oven, and not enough insulation . . . I only fired mine once from, cold . . . then just kept it hot! Just before I sold the house I was done with my bakery, I opened the doors and that kept the house about 80 -85 for 4 days in November with out any other heat source! ![]() |
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Shawn, from the numbers you are showing here, the outside of the oven is around 300 F at the point when you refire. And it goes up to around 450 F.
I live in PA, and the following idea might not apply to Arizona, but it certainly would have applied to Vermont. The idea is that if I was going to build an oven like that, and the outside was going to be 350 to 450 F, I would try to design a way to capture that heat and pump it back into my house. Maybe a sheet metal box surrounding the oven with a fan on a thermostat. Maybe use it to preheat the water headed into my hot water tank. Maybe run a small steam turbine that can run a generator and charge batteries to run my lights. One would need to do some serious engineering, maybe consult some mechanical and electrical engineers, but you could save a bundle in utility costs, even pay for the oven in a few years. You got me thinking here.
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Some fellows bring a brick oven of sorts on a trailer to some of the fairs in Eastern Wash. People really like the pizza they make in it.
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Clear as mud!
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I just remembered that I had recorded my own numbers . . . when I was just getting started, (#9 probe is the outside of my concrete clading or mass, then there was 11" of insulation on top of that, then probe #12 the ("real outside"!)here they are: ![]() |
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