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Mistress 10-23-2009 05:42 PM
If Your Gonna Have An Argument In The Cockpit Put The Plane on Auto Pilot
 
these guys are in BIGGGGGG trouble....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33436497/ns/us_news-life/

Brian Carlton 10-23-2009 05:45 PM
Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........

Mistress 10-23-2009 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2322732)
Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........
Brian- So at what altitude do you think the alarm went off?

MTI 10-23-2009 05:51 PM
Same thing happened here, pilot and co-pilot on an interisland fell asleep and overshot Hilo airport with passengers wondering why the plane wasn't descending when over the island.

Hatterasguy 10-23-2009 06:41 PM
Meh, sometimes you make mistakes. That flat pattern looks like something I would do, maybe thats why I'm not a pilot.:D

Brian Carlton 10-23-2009 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2322733)
Brian- So at what altitude do you think the alarm went off?
From what I gathered, they were steady at altitude..............who knows what finally woke them...........maybe the flight attendant...........:eek:

Hatterasguy 10-23-2009 07:39 PM
Maybe the flight attendant's should carry air horns for this.:D

cmac2012 10-23-2009 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2322732)
Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........
Oh man, doesn't look good if that's the case. Do they record every minute of speech in the cockpit? If so, this story about arguing about airline policy is going to fall flat if not true.

MTI 10-23-2009 08:00 PM
Cockpit voice recorder is on a re-recording loop, so they're not going to get much of the "heated debate" but they might get the "Okay, here's our story . . ." part, unless they did everything with hand signals and writing it down.

catmandoo62 10-23-2009 08:03 PM
heard on the news tonight that that particular plane had the old style recorder that records in 30 minute loops ,so they might just luck out and get out of it.

Brian Carlton 10-23-2009 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 2322828)
Do they record every minute of speech in the cockpit?
They do............IIRC it's the last 60 minutes............the tape runs in a loop.

Brian Carlton 10-23-2009 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 2322845)
heard on the news tonight that that particular plane had the old style recorder that records in 30 minute loops ,so they might just luck out and get out of it.
Yep, if it's 30 minutes, they took at least 30 minutes to bring it down after they woke up.

Nobody can prove anything............thankfully for them.

MTI 10-23-2009 08:08 PM
Oh, I think getting into a "heated debate" and neglecting flight plans and ATC calls is going to be a trip to the woodshed that even their union is going to have a hard time saving their jobs.

Brian Carlton 10-23-2009 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 2322853)
Oh, I think getting into a "heated debate" and neglecting flight plans and ATC calls is going to be a trip to the woodshed.
No doubt..........but, they probably won't be fired because of it.

MTI 10-23-2009 08:10 PM
Actually, the worst punishment would be reassignment to some crappy, out of the way short haul routes. Can you say "landing cycles?"


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