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Old 10-23-2009, 04:42 PM
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If Your Gonna Have An Argument In The Cockpit Put The Plane on Auto Pilot

these guys are in BIGGGGGG trouble....

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Old 10-23-2009, 04:45 PM
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Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:47 PM
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Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........
Brian- So at what altitude do you think the alarm went off?
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:51 PM
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Same thing happened here, pilot and co-pilot on an interisland fell asleep and overshot Hilo airport with passengers wondering why the plane wasn't descending when over the island.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:41 PM
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Meh, sometimes you make mistakes. That flat pattern looks like something I would do, maybe thats why I'm not a pilot.
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Brian- So at what altitude do you think the alarm went off?
From what I gathered, they were steady at altitude..............who knows what finally woke them...........maybe the flight attendant...........
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:39 PM
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Maybe the flight attendant's should carry air horns for this.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:43 PM
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Doesn't add up.

If you're in an "argument", you still hear the radio................


My bet: They both fell asleep..........
Oh man, doesn't look good if that's the case. Do they record every minute of speech in the cockpit? If so, this story about arguing about airline policy is going to fall flat if not true.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:00 PM
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Cockpit voice recorder is on a re-recording loop, so they're not going to get much of the "heated debate" but they might get the "Okay, here's our story . . ." part, unless they did everything with hand signals and writing it down.
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heard on the news tonight that that particular plane had the old style recorder that records in 30 minute loops ,so they might just luck out and get out of it.
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Do they record every minute of speech in the cockpit?
They do............IIRC it's the last 60 minutes............the tape runs in a loop.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:06 PM
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heard on the news tonight that that particular plane had the old style recorder that records in 30 minute loops ,so they might just luck out and get out of it.
Yep, if it's 30 minutes, they took at least 30 minutes to bring it down after they woke up.

Nobody can prove anything............thankfully for them.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:08 PM
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Oh, I think getting into a "heated debate" and neglecting flight plans and ATC calls is going to be a trip to the woodshed that even their union is going to have a hard time saving their jobs.
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Oh, I think getting into a "heated debate" and neglecting flight plans and ATC calls is going to be a trip to the woodshed.
No doubt..........but, they probably won't be fired because of it.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:10 PM
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Actually, the worst punishment would be reassignment to some crappy, out of the way short haul routes. Can you say "landing cycles?"

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