Sooo, the terrorists win?? - Page 11 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #**151** 12-30-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Does that presume that "private transport" operates profitably? It could be argued that private transport is heavily subsidized.

How so? We pay for the roads that are built among other things from fuel taxes. I suppose if you want to talk GM, yes, it is subsidized.

Chas H · #**152** 12-30-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Do they? Or do they pass it on? I know that if the cost goes up for me, I pass it on to the customer so I can make a profit. To a point, I might eat some of the loss but generally, I push it to the customer.

Businesses do both. My point was the individual can't do anything.

aklim · #**153** 12-30-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Businesses do both. My point was the individual can't do anything.

Agreed. His choices are to take it up the butt or take it up the butt or for a change, take it up the butt.

davidmash · #**154** 12-30-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Does that presume that "private transport" operates profitably? It could be argued that private transport is heavily subsidized.

That was my question I guess. Does the NYC public trans system support it's self from the fares or does the city give a subsidy for the subway?

Brian Carlton · #**155** 12-30-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

That was my question I guess. Does the NYC public trans system support it's self from the fares or does the city give a subsidy for the subway?

The NYC transit system is supported by the outrageous tolls on all the bridges and tunnels that connect Long Island with NYC.

The system could never sustain itself when it charges $2.50 for a fare to go one way...........anywhere in the system.

MTI · #**156** 12-30-2009, 03:14 PM

I'm not aware of many states that find the operation of their state roadways "profitable." For instance, NJ's drivers GSP and Turnpike toll system don't cover their op costs, since it barely covers the debt service.

The average driver in NJ pays a-half penny per mile to drive on non-tolled roads, which the gas tax funds. Drivers on the New Jersey Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway, meanwhile, pay seven cents per mile and four cents per mile, respectively.

The New Jersey Transportation Trust Fund Authority has new-money bonding capacity this fiscal year and next, but by July 2011, the start of fiscal 2012, its entire $895 million annual appropriation will be needed to cover principal and interest payments on the TTFA's nearly $11 billion of existing debt.

aklim · #**157** 12-30-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

The NYC transit system is supported by the outrageous tolls on all the bridges and tunnels that connect Long Island with NYC.

The system could never sustain itself when it charges $2.50 for a fare to go one way...........anywhere in the system.

IOW shuffle money here to pay for that. AKA I rob Peter to pay Paul

Maybe that is why only the govt can get involved. Only they can shuffle the money around to make it look like you got a free deal

HuskyMan · #**158** 12-31-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Businesses do both. My point was the individual can't do anything.

please define "Businesses" please define "individual".

Chas H · #**159** 12-31-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

please define "Businesses" please define "individual".

Oh please. Do you own a dictionary?

HuskyMan · #**160** 12-31-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Oh please. Do you own a dictionary?

more than a few. what is YOUR definition of "businesses" and "individual"?

Chas H · #**161** 12-31-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

more than a few. what is YOUR definition of "businesses" and "individual"?

The same as found in a dictionary. It's way too late in the year for cuteness.

HuskyMan · #**162** 12-31-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

The same as found in a dictionary. It's way too late in the year for cuteness.

which dictionary? Websters, Funk & Wagnalls, Oxford? and, which edition are you obtaining your definition(s) from?

#**163** 12-31-2009, 10:34 AM

While your at it, can you look up the definition of "it" for me?

cmac2012 · #**164** 12-31-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

The only question of any relevance here is why the hell a named terror suspect was allowed on a plane in the first place. Beyond that everything else is BS.

- Peter.

Word I heard is that he was not a terror suspect, merely a person of interest. Not apologizing for anyone but let's be accurate. The fellow had never perpetrated terrorism before as far as anyone knows.

Could well be that there are so many people of interest - millions - that staying on top of all of it is tough.

cmac2012 · #**165** 12-31-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Looks like they won this round.

They? Won? There is no they, just a bunch of loosely affiliated fools. And the fellow in question is a loser as are most all of them. A small number of people are going to be severely inconvenienced now and then, as in killed or mutilated, and I do not sneer at what they will have to deal with. Might happen to me. But that is not victory for 'them.'