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Old 02-25-2010, 08:07 PM
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I used to think that the government shouldn't be doing 95% of the things it does now. That number rose to like 97%, and then it got me thinking the USPS isn't that great either so like 99.9587%.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:21 PM
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I used to think that the government shouldn't be doing 95% of the things it does now. That number rose to like 97%, and then it got me thinking the USPS isn't that great either so like 99.9587%.
Hear Hear. Let go back to the directions for the presidency,senate and the congress. SUPPORT ENUMERATED POWERS. If it is not in the CONSTITUTION (as amended) then the elected people have no right to do it.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:52 PM
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Yea, screw this democracy !!!

We want facism !!!


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Old 02-25-2010, 10:29 PM
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I used to think that the government shouldn't be doing 95% of the things it does now. That number rose to like 97%, and then it got me thinking the USPS isn't that great either so like 99.9587%.
I'm with you. I think we would get along just fine with the following departments eliminated:

Homeland Security (Most functions of which rightly belong to Defense, or to state and local agencies)

Education (All functions of which belong to state and local agencies)

Energy (with the National Nuclear Security Administration reorganized under Defense)

Housing and Uban Development (This one just needs to die.)

Health and Human Services (With CDC and FDA transfered to Commerce)

Labor (Again, usurping the functions of state and local agencies)

That's not to mention all the smaller offices and programs I'd like to see eliminated in the surviving departments.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:14 AM
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I used to think that the government shouldn't be doing 95% of the things it does now. That number rose to like 97%, and then it got me thinking the USPS isn't that great either so like 99.9587%.
I am more than pleased with the service I get from the USPS. Less than 50 cents to deliver a hand written note from California to New York? In a few days time?! Amazing. This is a great country after all.
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We all know you want fascism Rich. And, well, looks like you win, you can stop coming around now.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:33 AM
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We all know you want fascism Rich. And, well, looks like you win, you can stop coming around now.
You have been seduced by the facists.

Think about it, if your anti government, you are automatically pro facism.

You think Exxon, WalMart, etc would not take up the reigns if we the people let them go ??

This is a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:48 AM
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You have been seduced by the facists.

Think about it, if your anti government, you are automatically pro facism.

You think Exxon, WalMart, etc would not take up the reigns if we the people let them go ??

This is a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
Take up what reigns, like global carbon taxes? Or forced vaccinations? Newsflash: They already push for that with government support.

Government creates monopolies through regulation and starve competition. Libertarians/anarcho-capitalists do not favor corporatist control, rather total uninhibited competition. The complete opposite. You don't get it, and do not have the ability to comprehend it. You just swallow the same old tired socialist revolutionary rhetoric about government doing everything for you so you don't have to take responsibility for anything yourself and why you have yet to, in about 5 attempts, addressed why Exxon favors the GW and carbon tax fraud.

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Take up what reigns, like global carbon taxes? Or forced vaccinations? Newsflash: They already push for that with government support.

Government creates monopolies through regulation and starve competition. Libertarians/anarcho-capitalists do not favor corporatist control, rather total uninhibited competition. The complete opposite. You don't get it, and do not have the ability to comprehend it. You just swallow the same old tired socialist revolutionary rhetoric about government doing everything for you so you don't have to take responsibility for anything yourself and why you have yet to, in about 5 attempts, addressed why Exxon favors the GW and carbon tax fraud.
Idealogues and those with agendas they don't want to disclose always have a problem answering direct questions. That and the whole battle of wits with an unarmed person thing. What exactly is an anarcho-capitalist? My guess would be someone who believes in absolutely no (government) regulation of business?
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Idealogues and those with agendas they don't want to disclose always have a problem answering direct questions. That and the whole battle of wits with an unarmed person thing. What exactly is an anarcho-capitalist? My guess would be someone who believes in absolutely no (government) regulation of business?
Pretty much. It gets deep, though. You can read more at places like http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mises.org and http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/lewrockwell.com. But unlike the "other side", differing opinions regarding specific matters are not only allowed but encouraged. The only thing is with "us" there's always logic and truth. Of late, intellectual property is at the forefront of conversation.
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Old 02-26-2010, 04:34 AM
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Take up what reigns, like global carbon taxes? Or forced vaccinations? Newsflash: They already push for that with government support.

Government creates monopolies through regulation and starve competition. Libertarians/anarcho-capitalists do not favor corporatist control, rather total uninhibited competition. The complete opposite. You don't get it, and do not have the ability to comprehend it. You just swallow the same old tired socialist revolutionary rhetoric about government doing everything for you so you don't have to take responsibility for anything yourself and why you have yet to, in about 5 attempts, addressed why Exxon favors the GW and carbon tax fraud.
I get it far better than you do.
We already have " total uninhibited competition "
its called the black market.

Wanna buy a kidney ???
Wanna lose a kidney in your sleep ???

Get a clue you have been deluded into fighting for facism.

Your comments about socialism are tired and lame.
Lets go see what the swiss think about it.
Or all of the other social democracies that are surviving the recession better than we are.
And we all know how lazy socialists are.
And how horrible the products are from social democracies.
Like those horrible horrible older mercedes benzes from germany.


Your ideals lead directly to a corporate monarchy.

Bow to your new god.

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they make more money that way.
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I get it far better than you do.
We already have " total uninhibited competition "
its called the black market.

Wanna buy a kidney ???
Wanna lose a kidney in your sleep ???

Get a clue you have been deluded into fighting for facism.

Your comments about socialism are tired and lame.
Lets go see what the swiss think about it.
Or all of the other social democracies that are surviving the recession better than we are.
And we all know how lazy socialists are.
And how horrible the products are from social democracies.
Like those horrible horrible older mercedes benzes from germany.


Your ideals lead directly to a corporate monarchy.

Bow to your new god.

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Exxon puts on a fasade of caring about the environment because
they make more money that way.
When you can spell the words you're trying to call me, then you can lob insults my way.

The black market is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Cheap, hard to obtain goods, untaxed. Good, now you're thinking. And the environmental angle isn't popular, so that's doesn't present a very good facade. They make money trading carbon credits and getting in on the new scheme.

Tell me, was the country more or less prosperous during free trade, or now, during complete regulation? Did people used to pay cash for houses and land, because they don't now? Did they produce all their goods? They don't now. Did the railroads gain a monopoly by government grants, or all by themselves? Ditto on the oil companies. Who has a monopoly on transportation? The corporations or government? Pharmaceutical companies spend billions and billions in DC, isn't it pretty much illegal in a lot of places getting cheap foreign competing drugs? How about marijuana, is that illegal or are the corporations just really good at keeping it out of the hands of citizens? How many auto companies are there, and how many are profitable? How many different regulatory agencies have a hand in controlling that industry?

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I'm sure many of you have heard about one of Canada's Ministers coming to the USA to have his heart surgery done. This should speak volumes about the benefits of socialized medicine if you are willing to listen, but if it is not trumpeted by the mainstream media most won't hear. I listened to a portion of the summit on the radio and to me it sounded as if they were just going through the motions to say an effort at a bipartisan agreement had been attempted, but failed, so now we are going to ram this monstrosity down your throat and to hell with the will of the people. God help us all.
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I'm sure many of you have heard about one of Canada's Ministers coming to the USA to have his heart surgery done. This should speak volumes about the benefits of socialized medicine if you are willing to listen, but if it is not trumpeted by the mainstream media most won't hear. I listened to a portion of the summit on the radio and to me it sounded as if they were just going through the motions to say an effort at a bipartisan agreement had been attempted, but failed, so now we are going to ram this monstrosity down your throat and to hell with the will of the people. God help us all.
Canada just voted the guy that put together their single payer system as man of the century.

Or healthcare is nearly the best in the world.
But millions of american citizens do not have access to it.

Isint it nice that our healthcare takes better care of a canadian than its own citizens ??

Its not about the quality of healthcare its about the availability.

And yes, we need to ram healthcare reform right down the throats of all the insurance companies making record profits durning a recession, while people are losing their homes because of skyrocketing costs.
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And yes, we need to ram healthcare reform right down the throats of all the insurance companies making record profits durning a recession, while people are losing their homes because of skyrocketing costs.
Ram it down their throats? Hell, "they" wrote the bill....

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