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Federal Mandated Health Insurance already exists.
it is called Medicaid.
here's a little history on how the first federally mandated health coverage program came to be....... http://www.larrydewitt.net/Essays/MedicareDaddy.htm |
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Or is it Medicare? The two are different.
Contributing to Medicare is required, participation is voluntary. |
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Of my father's generation, many of my older relatives and his friends still view LBJ as the devil incarnate for his role in the Vietnam War. And they view him as being responsible for ruining the economy and causing the inflation of the late 60's/early 70's by trying to pay for the Vietnam War AND his Great Society initiatives at the same time - Welfare in particular being spoken of in villainous terms. On the face of it, sounds not unlike what GW and the R's pulled for 8 years - trying to pay for 2 wars, massive spending increases, the Medicare Prescription Drug "doughnut hole", and borrowing out the wazoo to pay for it. These 3 programs - Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security - and the way the government has administered them - and ran them trillions of dollars into the red with unfunded liabilities - Social Security itself has $2.5 trillion in IOU bonds from the federal government, and arguably has been one of the better ran government programs - is one of, if not THE main reason (at least in my case), that many people have heartburn with the current HC bill. Given the track record of BOTH parties over the past 50 years, can you honestly blame anyone for being skeptical as to what's actually in this bill, that it's actually going to work, or even come close to the cost that's being quoted? I'd give it 2 chances - slim and none. FYI, as far as Social Security, for the past 20 years I've been basing my retirement plans on the premise that SS is NOT going to be there when I'm of retirement age in another 15 to 20 years - beginning to look as if that was a wise decision, based on their balance sheets.
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SSN, Medicaire and Medicaid are similar to the "no child left behind" ideology.
government is here to provide a safety net for you downers and outers. |
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If you want to troll around with a new thread, the least you could do was to get your facts correct. |
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"He whose bread I eat, his song I must sing". and so it is..... Last edited by HuskyMan; 03-21-2010 at 10:34 AM. |
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Each has it's own benefits and pitfalls.........and each is a separate discussion. Unless, of course, you just want to rail against the government. If so, I'd strongly advise you not to do it on here.........as several departed members have unfortunately found out. |
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I am going to take that as a policy mandate by the moderator to not make posts that are critical of the government in anyway whatsoever. please clarify for me that this is forum policy and I will remove any and all posts that I have made that might or could be considered "critical". AND, if this is forum policy, it would appear that other forum members should do the same. |
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But, what purpose does it serve in "open discussion" to simply rail about how terrible the government is and what a miserable job they are doing. Here's a tidbit.........we all have those feelings at certain points in time........and there is nothing we can do about it short of moving to France. Therefore, it serves no purpose on here. No need to remove any previous posts. Just be cognizant that the forum exists for discussion..........not for ranting. |
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will do. my point is this: if someone participates in the receipt of a
benefit, then an obligation is incurred. for instance, if someone borrows money from a bank to buy a home, the borrower owes the bank. the bank now has a vested interest in both the borrower and the real estate. the borrower has eaten the bank's bread, therefore the borrower best sing the bank's song (pay the bank). government benefits are there for the taking, but they are never "free". nothing in this life is "free". Last edited by HuskyMan; 03-21-2010 at 11:38 AM. |
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Some government benefits are clearly there for the "taking". This would apply to "Medicaid". Some government benefits are there to payback the money that you already paid in. This would apply to "Medicare". There is a world of difference between the two. I'm more than pleased with the latter..........not so happy about the former. |
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