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Old 03-25-2010, 11:13 PM
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SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS.

Im sure all the axxholes who voted for the so called Health Bill read and fully understood each and every element ... or... did they follow the lead of the Speaker of the House and ''Pass the Bill so we can see what's inside'' ??

2409 pages, Two thousand, four hundred and nine pages. I reckon its necessary to have something so big when you have so much to hide.

What does this threads title refer to ? It refers to the creation of a militia.

During the campaign obama stated something to the effect ''We need a national militia''. Amazingly, the Health Bill has started the ball rolling with ...
ya ready ?? ohhh come on... guess who is at the head..

"Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General" That is on page 1313.

I sure bet each and every one of the 220 in the House who voted for it knew that.. after all .. as ELECTED officials it is their job to R E P R E S E N T those who elected them and to do so means they are informed.

Dont take my word for it, go to this link and down 5 / 6 comments to the pdf weblink. Be advised, 2409 pages takes a bit to download. Once downloaded, paste this title into the search. Up will come page 1312.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2478605/posts

I am sure most of you know that last August, the 20th to be exact, Winchester was awarded a contract to provide 2 0 0 million rounds of .40 caliber ammo to our lovely Department of Homeland Security at the rate of 40 million rounds per year for 5 years !

What the hell is DHS gonna do with 40 million rounds a year ??

http://www.sodahead.com/living/why-does-the-department-of-homeland-security-need-up-to-200-million-40-calibur-rounds-of-ammunition/question-798353/

If you really want to know, call and ask your Federal Senators and your Rep. I did, Im still waiting for an answer.

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Old 03-25-2010, 11:21 PM
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Interesting, I guess.

Will this militia be issued black helicopters?
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:48 PM
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Interesting, I guess.

Will this militia be issued black helicopters?
Black helicopters !!!

Oh boy!! How do I join !??!

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Old 03-25-2010, 11:56 PM
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Black helicopters !!!

Oh boy!! How do I join !??!

First, visit here
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1154898/how_to_make_a_tinfoil_hat/
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:04 AM
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Ok !! Got it !! I can make one of those !! Thanks for the link !!

One question, though: Should it fit under or over the headset ?
I’m think’n: over. But I'm not sure.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:06 AM
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Ok !! Got it !! I can make one of those !! Thanks for the link !!

One question, though: Should it fit under or over the headset ?
I’m think’n: over. But I'm not sure.
Y'got me, I'm deaf. No headset required.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:47 AM
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I'm disappointed. I was waiting for that Sharon Stone moment that never came. The tin foil bikini was a poor sustitute. (But I did like the naval tat. )
Kevin Trudeau's weight loss...
lmao.
Have a nice day. I have work to do.
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:09 AM
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Nice knowin ya Hattie... picturing black ops blowing a hole in your house and "escorting" you into their helicopter hovering near your room.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:38 AM
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you boys laugh while you still can...not a conspiracy nut, but when non-criminal enforcement agencies start arming themselves contra to US law...something is going on that can't be good...eg: The DOE is accepting bids for a large quantity of 12 gauge tactical shotguns: WTF? Education Dept, shotguns????
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Old 03-26-2010, 10:01 AM
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you boys laugh while you still can...not a conspiracy nut, but when non-criminal enforcement agencies start arming themselves contra to US law...something is going on that can't be good...eg: The DOE is accepting bids for a large quantity of 12 gauge tactical shotguns: WTF? Education Dept, shotguns????
Are you talking about the Dept of Education or the Dept of Energy (normally called DOE)?

Have you seen the security at any DOE (energy) nuclear facilities since 9/11? These guys probably have tanks and anti-aircraft weapons hidden away someplace. Without going into detail, the private security at commercial nuclear plants is also "extensive." Plenty of government agencies have weapons.


I have no clue what the Dept of Education is up to these days.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:09 PM
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Are you talking about the Dept of Education or the Dept of Energy (normally called DOE)?

Have you seen the security at any DOE (energy) nuclear facilities since 9/11? These guys probably have tanks and anti-aircraft weapons hidden away someplace. Without going into detail, the private security at commercial nuclear plants is also "extensive." Plenty of government agencies have weapons.


I have no clue what the Dept of Education is up to these days.
Speaking of Dept Of Ed, perhaps my bad on acronyms. I am very familiar with the security forces and measures that Energy has regarding protection of fissionable materials.

I was referrering to bid request for tactical shotguns for the Dept of Ed.

Yes, plenty of government agencies have guns and special reaction teams, including some that you would not think would. This is not an new issue, rather one that MSM used to report on with some degree of concern when the GOP was in office (Bush 41, maybe), regarding the rise of "SWAT" type teams throughout government. It has been a concern of mine for quite a while, I'd rather see conventional Federal LEOs like FBI in conjunction with State officials conduct law enforcement activities. In the FAA, we do not have SRTs and only accompany LEOs in certain situations and then only as subject matter experts.
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jollyroger.... the link is 5 or 6 down in that link.

http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-care-act-as-passed.pdf
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Speaking of Dept Of Ed, perhaps my bad on acronyms. I am very familiar with the security forces and measures that Energy has regarding protection of fissionable materials.

I was referrering to bid request for tactical shotguns for the Dept of Ed.

Yes, plenty of government agencies have guns and special reaction teams, including some that you would not think would. This is not an new issue, rather one that MSM used to report on with some degree of concern when the GOP was in office (Bush 41, maybe), regarding the rise of "SWAT" type teams throughout government. It has been a concern of mine for quite a while, I'd rather see conventional Federal LEOs like FBI in conjunction with State officials conduct law enforcement activities. In the FAA, we do not have SRTs and only accompany LEOs in certain situations and then only as subject matter experts.
Strange, I have no idea what the Dept of Ed wants with shotguns.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:45 PM
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Strange, I have no idea what the Dept of Ed wants with shotguns.
And, that is my point....
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Old 03-26-2010, 10:59 AM
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you boys laugh while you still can...not a conspiracy nut, but when non-criminal enforcement agencies start arming themselves contra to US law...something is going on that can't be good...eg: The DOE is accepting bids for a large quantity of 12 gauge tactical shotguns: WTF? Education Dept, shotguns????
I see nothing about anyone arming anyone in the Public Health Service, are you that easily swayed by this guy coupling some "soda head" (boy, did that get a laugh) rumor about the DHS buying ammo with some totally unrelated section of the reform act? Here is the act, it is simply an amending of the existing Public Health Act, which has given the Surgeon General since the Cold War days the power to form military-structured units in time of national emergency. But if you really want to use your head for something besides a repository for legions of Freeper rumors, read the last sentence, the total funding for this is a paltry 12 million bucks, which doesn't buy squat in the way of some sort of Gestapo that the OP seems to want us to believe, this is merely admendment to existing functions the government already has:

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SEC. 5209. ELIMINATION OF CAP ON COMMISSIONED
CORPS.

Section 202 of the Department of Health and Human Services Appropriations Act, 1993 (Public Law 102–394) is amended by striking ‘‘not to exceed 2,800’’.
SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS.
Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: ‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE
CORPS.
‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service
a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency.
‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be ap- pointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act of 1923, as amended.
‘‘(3) APPOINTMENT.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.
‘‘(4) ACTIVE DUTY.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training.
‘‘(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.—Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for pur- poses of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service. ‘‘(b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment
THE of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, all indi- viduals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date
of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps. ‘‘(c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESEARCH.—

‘‘(1) PURPOSE.—The purpose of the Ready Re- serve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short no- tice (similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.

‘‘(2) USES.—The Ready Reserve Corps shall—

‘‘(A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps;

‘‘(B) be available and ready for involuntary
calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel;

‘(C) be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emer- gencies, both foreign and domestic; and

‘‘(D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 799B) to im-
prove access to health services.


‘‘(d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the
duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated $5,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for recruitment and training and $12,500,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for the Ready Reserve Corps.’’.
Of course, if you really need relief from your paranoia, take a look at exactly who these scary people actually are:

http://www.roa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Creating_A_US_PHS_Ready_Reserve_0709

This looks to me like a prudent act of government doing things to preserve and protect the United States. We live in an age where an anthrax attack on this country is not an impossibility. Given that as a fact, tell me why this is frightening to you?
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