Originally Posted by t walgamuth

While there is some truth in the above post it is a pretty gross exageration in some of the cases.

I was given corporal punishment as a kid and have spanked pretty much all of my children. But as the years went by we found that we could get the desired results using other means.

We made them set on the brown couch for one minute for each year of age generally.

Originally Posted by The Swede

White towels don't kill people...

It was fun watching the bag of donuts trying to catch up with him, lol. Stick it to the man.

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO

We need to get back to more discipline and realistic action/reaction thinking in the schools as well.

I’m thinking this could be a good time to drop this into the topic. I got this sent to me some time back. It sure holds true for schools around here.

From 2008 to 2010, things certainly didn’t get any better. Worse, actually.

Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1958 – Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack’s shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 – School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1958 – Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 – Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Jeffrey won’t be still in class, disrupts other students.
1958 – Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 – Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1958 – Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 – Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse.. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has affair with psychologist.

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1958 – Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 – Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Pedro fails high school English.
1958 – Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2008 – Pedro’s cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action laws suit against state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1958 – Ants die.
2008 – ATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny’s Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1958 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 – Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

Originally Posted by PaulC

1958 - 17 y.o. kid runs onto baseball field - cop chases him down, kicks his arse back into the stands.

2010 - 17 y.o. kid runs onto baseball field - cop, who spent the last 20 years overeating hyper-processed Mc-carbo crap every day, starts to chase him down, but starts to run out of steam, bright and early, out comes the electronic version of the long arm of the law...zzzZZZAAAPPP...

Originally Posted by Zeus

X2, other than the belt-whipping which I think has been appropriately removed from most parents' arsenal of punishment.

Overweight, as many people are now becoming, staff cannot run anywhere near fast enough to perform their duty as a security force to catch the kid, he is shot with a taser and instantly falls to the ground. He is handcuffed and hauled off.

I have seen many 'tough love' posts on this forum and it would seem we are surrounded by saints who never sinned or made bad choices as teenagers.

Originally Posted by Zeus

Pretty much. It's sad really. Wake up time...

Originally Posted by aklim

Does it break bones? Hasn't broken my bones.

I see. So it is my duty to tackle you and risk injury to both me and you because you are an idiot and do stupid things. Is that the long and short of your thesis?

MAYBE, just MAYBE, you forgot the 3rd option. Those who have sinned, made bad choices and those who have paid for those and learned from it the hard way and now are better off. If my parents had been soft with me and let me do as I please, I wouldn't even have made it past high school and might now be in the morgue or worse.

Originally Posted by t walgamuth

While there is some truth in the above post it is a pretty gross exageration in some of the cases.

I was given corporal punishment as a kid and have spanked pretty much all of my children. But as the years went by we found that we could get the desired results using other means.

We made them set on the brown couch for one minute for each year of age generally.