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Old 05-05-2010, 10:15 AM
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Don't taze me Bro!

What a jerk this kid was.

Kid at the ball park over the phone: "Hey dad, I think I'll run out on the field in the middle of the game"

Dad: " I don't think that's a very good idea"

......eight....nine....ten....yer out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_NhwoRKpi4&feature=related

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20100505_Mother_of_Tased_teen_offers_apology.html
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:17 AM
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As the Brits might say, he's a plonker.

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"I was like, who the hell is that idiot out there?" said Scott, an engineer with Lockheed Martin.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:33 AM
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haven't seen a teenager yet that at some point in their teen years did something totally stupid. and, all of us were teenagers at some point and probably did something stupid. is that deserving of an electrocution?

concerning tasers, it has been PROVEN that a percentage of the population will suffer either permanent heart damage or death as a result of being tazed.

most police departments require police trainees experience a tazing. the trainees are asked to sign a liability waiver. why is that?
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:43 AM
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concerning tasers, it has been PROVEN that a percentage of the population will suffer either permanent heart damage or death as a result of being tazed.
You’re right.

It’s something like .2%. And something like 99% of those had either preexisting heart conditions or were already spooled up on drugs.
Perhaps I should look into the actual numbers. But I think I'm not far off.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:56 AM
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For his stepfather, "My first concern was what I was going to do to him when I lay my hands on him."


My dad, a Boston Irishman schooled in pugilism, would have left a few black & blues on my upper arms, that's for sure.
And if he wasn't around, my mother would have used her enforcer of choice, the WW2 army surplus stainless steel serving spoon she kept handy for such "teaching moments".
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:57 AM
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For his stepfather, "My first concern was what I was going to do to him when I lay my hands on him."


My dad, a Boston Irishman schooled in pugilism, would have left a few black & blues on my upper arms, that's for sure.
And if he wasn't around, my mother would have used her enforcer of choice, the WW2 army surplus stainless steel serving spoon she kept handy for such "teaching moments".
sounds like my house when I was growing up...
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:06 AM
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For his stepfather, "My first concern was what I was going to do to him when I lay my hands on him."


My dad, a Boston Irishman schooled in pugilism, would have left a few black & blues on my upper arms, that's for sure.
And if he wasn't around, my mother would have used her enforcer of choice, the WW2 army surplus stainless steel serving spoon she kept handy for such "teaching moments".
nothing wrong with punishment fitting the crime. but look at this situation. the kid didn't launch onto the field packing a 12 gauge shotgun, did he? he's swinging a towel around and running, probably a bit crazed due to what my mother called "raging hormones". typical of a teenager. no one was damaged, no one was hurt, merely a temporary interruption of the ball game. he caused no one harm. he didn't deserve to be electrocuted.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:02 AM
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You’re right.

It’s something like .2%. And something like 99% of those had either preexisting heart conditions or were already spooled up on drugs.
Perhaps I should look into the actual numbers. But I think I'm not far off.
and prior to Tazers, some of the police departments used pepper spray. and that resulted in some deaths as well. someone needs to develop a method so that they the ability to subdue an individual safely. I understand they have developed bean bag guns that will knock someone down but not permanently injure them.

in days past, a motto was seen written on the side of Police Cars:

"To Protect and To Serve". as I'm sure most are aware, that motto has been REMOVED. it appears the motto has been changed to "Shoot First, Ask Questions Later", a doctrine that tends to harm the innocent.

Alfred Hitchcock was once asked if there was anything he was afraid of. since the guy had created some of the most frightening films in history, one might think he was not afraid of anything. but, even Hitchcock had his fears.

he said the cops scared the H out of him because they have a license to KILL.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:11 AM
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and prior to Tazers, some of the police departments used pepper spray. and that resulted in some deaths as well. someone needs to develop a method so that they the ability to subdue an individual safely. I understand they have developed bean bag guns that will knock someone down but not permanently injure them.

in days past, a motto was seen written on the side of Police Cars:

"To Protect and To Serve". as I'm sure most are aware, that motto has been REMOVED. it appears the motto has been changed to "Shoot First, Ask Questions Later", a doctrine that tends to harm the innocent.

Alfred Hitchcock was once asked if there was anything he was afraid of. since the guy had created some of the most frightening films in history, one might think he was not afraid of anything. but, even Hitchcock had his fears.

he said the cops scared the H out of him because they have a license to KILL.

oh the horrors of police.....how can we sleep at night with such monsters lurking waiting to kill us?
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:43 PM
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[QUOTE=HuskyMan;2461675]and prior to Tazers, some of the police departments used pepper spray. and that resulted in some deaths as well. someone needs to develop a method so that they the ability to subdue an individual safely. I understand they have developed bean bag guns that will knock someone down but not permanently injure them.
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I’m thinking that’s pretty much what the thought is behind the pepper-spray and the tazer.

You'll need to define "safely" first though. And that wont be as easy as you may think.

It’s referred to as “non lethal force” for a reason. And statistically, when compared to other alternatives, it is just that.

You need to keep in mind the word “force” here.
You’re trying to physically stop someone who does not want to be stopped.
In its simplest form, that is going to take some sort of opposing force. In this case, you can’t just let the kid run around the field until he gets bored with it and leaves. So, some sort of opposing force must be injected into the equation. In this case, the tazer did exactly what it was designed to do.

Sure. At some point over time. When used against some particular individual. In some particular physical condition (unknown to the officer). You are going to discover a gray zone where “non leathal” could be in jeopardy. That holds true for pepper-spray, tazers, beanbags, rubber bullets, etc.

But, here’s the other thing you need to consider. That list can also include a physical grab, any take down method (including accidental), any form of restraint used, etc.

So what are you going to do? Just let the kid run?
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:06 AM
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You’re right.

It’s something like .2%. And something like 99% of those had either preexisting heart conditions or were already spooled up on drugs.
Perhaps I should look into the actual numbers. But I think I'm not far off.
I believe you are pretty close to the mark with that assessment.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0523646320071008

http://www.ncchc.org/pubs/CC/tasers.html


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Old 05-05-2010, 10:54 AM
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haven't seen a teenager yet that at some point in their teen years did something totally stupid. and, all of us were teenagers at some point and probably did something stupid. is that deserving of an electrocution?

concerning tasers, it has been PROVEN that a percentage of the population will suffer either permanent heart damage or death as a result of being tazed.

most police departments require police trainees experience a tazing. the trainees are asked to sign a liability waiver. why is that?
aww the poor idiot...I guess he should have thought about what might happen before he did something so STUPID....
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:06 PM
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haven't seen a teenager yet that at some point in their teen years did something totally stupid. and, all of us were teenagers at some point and probably did something stupid. is that deserving of an electrocution?

concerning tasers, it has been PROVEN that a percentage of the population will suffer either permanent heart damage or death as a result of being tazed.
And maybe this will educate him on the error of his ways so maybe next time, he will think carefully before he acts.

So what is it you suggest? Tackle him? Fair enough. Are you 100% sure that in that tackle he cannot get hurt? Football players seem to think otherwise. So what do we do that will keep him 100% safe? Let him do what he wants and when he has finally calmed down, invite him to discuss it over a cup of coffee at Starbucks?
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:31 AM
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well, its a way to liven up the sport a little though.. I personally wouldnt giving what they can do to you if they do catch you...
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:37 AM
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Yeah but the cops can't read minds.
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