Oopps, looks like O's hand picked general succumbed to a common ailment to those that do business in high levels in DC - foot in mouth disease.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100622/pl_nm/us_afghanistan

He broke one of the primary rules of military etiquette - you don't badmouth your boss, civilian or military, in public. If you feel things are really that screwed up, first talk to the boss in private and respectfully voice your concerns. If nothing happens after that, you have two choices - either shut up and get on with your job the best you can, or put your money where your mouth and morals are - resign your command and/or commission, then publicly voice your concerns.

Regardless of whether he has valid concerns or not, he screwed up by shooting off his mouth at the wrong time in the wrong place to the wrong people. Won't be surprised if he does get canned.

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Hard to imagine that someone who's made it to his rank pulls a stunt this foolish.

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Actually, he was Petraeus's hand picked general, Obama has never cared for the man, now we see why. The general's behavior, and this matters not who is the president, is disgraceful, dishonorable, and down right treasonous. It is detrimental to moral and unity of our troops. The man is simply, a bastard.

That general needs to be retired, fired, or replaced.

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While I agree with you on this matter, what do you think of the military men who disagreed with Bush? Think they should be labeled the same?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/06/22/flashback-media-promoted-military-criticism-president-bush

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Here's what Kirk said THEN:

General Anthony Zinni on 60 Minutes

Granted, Zinni was retired when he made the comments.

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Gen Shinseki wasn't. But all is forgiven though

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1864915,00.html

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Apparently this behavior goes way back to West Point, he spent more time doing punishment and had more than 100 demerits during his time there.

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I'm curious to see what the article actually contains. The quotes by the general himself sound damning, but I'd like to hear them in context. Either way, it doesn't look good, and yes, he should know better. Like him or not, the POTUS is still boss and should certainly not be badmouthed in the press. Wait 'til you're retired. At the same time, I'm never terribly impressed with quotes attributed to anonymous aides.

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It was to a reporter, he was on Scarbourogh this morning, and says he has tapes. There is no doubt here.

On the contrary, I see what could be construed as one misinterpretation by the AP report already:

"The article quotes a member of McChrystal's team making jokes about Biden, who was seen as critical of the general's efforts to escalate the conflict and who had favored a more limited counter-terrorism approach.

"Biden?" the aide was quoted as saying. "Did you say: Bite me?"

McChrystal himself quipped: "Are you asking about Vice President Biden?". "Who's that?," he asked."

I am reading the RS article now, and it reads to me that the general and his staff are guessing at what his latest gaffe might sound like:

"Now, flipping through printout cards of his speech in Paris, McChrystal wonders aloud what Biden question he might get today, and how he should respond. "I never know what's going to pop out until I'm up there, that's the problem," he says. Then, unable to help themselves, he and his staff imagine the general dismissing the vice president with a good one-liner."

Hardly the same as making those comments directly about the VP. There are plenty of other things to criticize, of course... that one's just a little misrepresented.

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If he was a Brit, he would have said he was gobsmacked that McChrystal was saying this while he was holding a tape recorder and a pad of paper.

I was never crazy about McChrystal. He is said to sleep only 4 hours a night. Maybe that's why he looks wired and a little crazed.

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I thought the article was excellent.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

I agree. It wasn't a hatchet job, imo.
Dumb to be so forthright, and it'll cost him his job. He had enough rope. He hung himself.
I did find it interesting that they seemed to respect Hillary the most out of all the members of the administration.

And didn't some general in Europe pop off about Clinton and get sacked for it early on?

There's really not much that the general said firsthand (in the reporter's presence) that's objectionable... it's the aides who reveal past statements that get him in hot water. That's the irony. But yes, it's an ugly situation that should have been avoided. Not (politically) smart comments by his staff at all.

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