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Txjake · #1 06-22-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Yes, the words of the oath need to be changed to suit you, I'm sure. Do you even know what they are? Here's a clue:

I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

So, show me where Gen Stan or his men violated that oath...please show me...

strelnik · #2 06-22-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

So, show me where Gen Stan or his men violated that oath...please show me...

Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice relates to conduct unbecoming an officer. Specifically relates to contempt or statements which others may take as reasons to be less respectful to those placed in authority over the command.

What clinched his fate is doing it while wearing a uniform, definitely a no-no in violation of DoD policy and administrative rules which all officers are trained to observe and receive training on, annually.

Even if I agree with him, it doesn't matter: he flaunted the regs because, I am guessing, he thought, like Boris Grishin in Goldeneye: " I am invincible."

Nope, you're not. Say good-bye. Buy some suits and get ready for the talk show circuit.

Txjake · #3 06-23-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by strelnik

Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice relates to conduct unbecoming an officer. Specifically relates to contempt or statements which others may take as reasons to be less respectful to those placed in authority over the command.

What clinched his fate is doing it while wearing a uniform, definitely a no-no in violation of DoD policy and administrative rules which all officers are trained to observe and receive training on, annually.

Even if I agree with him, it doesn't matter: he flaunted the regs because, I am guessing, he thought, like Boris Grishin in Goldeneye: " I am invincible."

Nope, you're not. Say good-bye. Buy some suits and get ready for the talk show circuit.

I agree, Article 92 would fit here, or not, depending on who is administering it. In Gen Stan's place, I am sure that he is toast. I was just trying to illustrate to JR, that the oath was not what he violated. He did seem to think he was invincible. I have friends still in who have been in units or commanded under him and say he is dynamic and brash, which is actually what we need in a combat warrior commander. The "zero error" 90's, during the Clinton drawdown years produced a huge number of officers (so-called leaders) who did not much more than mitigate risk to cover their ass in case something went south. We may regret losing Gen Stan, but as De Gaulle said, "the graveyards are full of indespensible men".