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Phil · #31 08-04-2010, 02:07 PM

Here in California we have a candidate for governor who is trying to buy the position outright so I guess a company could do the same.

aklim · #32 08-04-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I think it can all be seen when I contrast the construction industries in two states I have lived in. In non-union Texas, one person can have a plumber's license, he signs all the papers, and a hundred illegal aliens do all the actual plumbing work, which he moderately supervises. In Massachusetts, the union requires all workers have a journeyman's license, and any "helper's" jobs are strictly defined. In Texas, their rules result in 100 Mexicans living on minimum wage, who use the local ER's for health care at taxpayer expense. In MA, these same hundred jobs are being performed by US citizens at licensed, skilled labor wages. In MA, a high school kid can walk on to a construction site, get a "helper's" job that is the entry to a middle class life. In Texas, he'd be walking into a dead-end job where he'll get to compete with illegals for wages. The difference ? No unions.

The union, wanting to increase it's roll of members, happens to force the issue. In Tx, the problem, like anywhere else is the people not wanting to enforce the law to get rid of the illegals. That they use the ER for healthcare is because of the stupid law that makes it mandatory to treat them.

Jim B. · #33 08-04-2010, 03:20 PM

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Now, that's a scary group.

Cheapskates, losers, the lot of them. Only the price matters. NOTHING else.

They would gladly buy a car made in Bangladesh or Nigeria if it LOOKED pretty much like a Mercedes Benz.

As long as it was cheap.

Jim B. · #34 08-04-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

Here in California we have a candidate for governor who is trying to buy the position outright so I guess a company could do the same.

Made her fortune as the CEO in ebay. Probably figured there is a "BUY IT NOW" kind of button she could get the voters in CA to push, for her to win it.

She has spent over $100 million so far, trying to buy it: *this* from a person seemingly interested in fulfilling some personal dream, by buyng millions of dollars of TV time attacking her opponents, and who will spend millions more.

Most of her life ever even voted. Now is flip flopping, telling different audiences different things, what she hopes each one would want to hear, (and studiously avoids the press with its hard questions, a Sarah Palin tactic.)

If she wins, it will be because of the constant repetition of her paid messages, (bombarding the media with paid ads,) not because she is qualified on any meaningful level.

That is transparent and pretty disgusting to many California voters.

Plus California is more Democrat overall than Republican. It will be a tough race for her.

Just now she has discovered the huge Hispanic vote and she is now buying ads all over Univision and elsewhere, that are telling Hispanics in Spanish, what she thinks they want to hear.

cmbdiesel · #35 08-04-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

And what will that accomplish? The rest of the world still won't buy your expensive crummy products when there are cheap crummy products to buy

Maybe we will start buying our own crummy products.

If the American product option is priced the same as the Chinese, we may be able to cut our imports.

aklim · #36 08-04-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Maybe we will start buying our own crummy products.

If the American product option is priced the same as the Chinese, we may be able to cut our imports.

But will the other party take it lying down or do something nasty in return?

#37 08-04-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Maybe we will start buying our own crummy products.

If the American product option is priced the same as the Chinese, we may be able to cut our imports.

I don't think you understand how the Chinamerican economy works. Cutting "our" imports is not part of the plan.

Skid Row Joe · #38 08-04-2010, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by aklim

The rest of the world still won't buy your expensive crummy products when there are cheap crummy products to buy.
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KIA's and Hyundai's sales increases prove this point. One had sales increases of 25% YOY, versus GM's 1%+.

Doesn't take a rocket science degree to figure out we Americans buy cheap.......

Pooka · #39 08-04-2010, 06:35 PM

When Bush was President he saw to it that furniture made in China was hit with a 100% import tax. China's reaction?

They did nothing.

What can they do? If we stop buying from them their economy will go down the drain. Sure, there is the rest of the world, but how much buying power does the rest of the world have?

In the 1970's a friend of mine was all excited about how his products would soon be sold in India. A Billion Consumers! I asked him how many of them had the economic power to buy his product and the answer was just a few thousand. His sales were greater in the Republic of South Africa and they were in the middle of a war with the ANC.

If China wants to be in business they have to be in the US. If they want to get all Galt about it and cut us off it would cause panic for the several minutes it would take to replace everything they sell here. Then they would become, "China Who?"

Why does China not flex its' economic power? For the same reason Cuba does not. Without the US dollars coming in they really don't have any.

#40 08-04-2010, 06:48 PM

The point is that the US needs the chinese labor market just as much as china needs US consumers.

Emmerich · #41 08-07-2010, 12:45 AM

Uh, the economies are going under.

You are confusing correlation with causation.

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Since unionized industries in countries like Germany, Sweden and Italy are resulting in industries that are beating our brains out, tell me how that's a bad thing? The decline of unions in the US seems to be mirroring the decline of the US middle class, and the decline of our international economic fortunes. IMO, this is because when unions are weak, wealth gets concentrated among the top 1%, something else we know is true, and they are just as likely to spend it on building factories or outsourcing jobs to China. Unions are a means of distributing more of the profits of a corporation among it's employees, who can then have a decent middle class life, and who spend the money here in the US, where it helps the US economy. The Europeans have learned that. We haven't.

I also find it an apples-to-oranges thing. Corporations are doing this because a right-wing majority of rich white guys and their one uncle tom have been slowly granting corporations the status of "personhood". I have yet to see this novel, and IMO, fascist, idea apply to unions, which are simply organizations of voters.