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JollyRoger · #1 08-06-2010, 02:09 PM

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Margaret Sanger, Marie Stopes, H. G. Wells, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Emile Zola, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Linus Pauling and Sidney Webb.

Adolf Hitler.

Scruffyguy1981 · #2 08-06-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Adolf Hitler.

I think I mentioned that at one point. It somehow was ignored

MS Fowler · #3 08-06-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Adolf Hitler.

AH was a late comer to the position. The others in BB's response mostly US Progressives were there first.

aklim · #4 08-06-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

AH was a late comer to the position. The others in BB's response mostly US Progressives were there first.

This?

MS Fowler · #5 08-06-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

This?

Yes.

As much as modern liberals/ progressives like to point the accusing finger at conservatives and cry, " Beware, there is fascism in your genes", they tend to ignore the other three fingers pointing back at them.

Fascism is much more a product of the political left than the right, historically speaking. That does NOT mean that all modern progressives or Liberals are fascists. But fascism is a natural by-product when we ignore the Constitutional restrictions on the proper role of government whether from the right or the left.
Geo. Bush's Compassionate Conservatism had some fascistic tendencies, but he was hardly what anyone would call a Conservative.
Also Fascism in America will not look like Italian Fascism or German fascism; we are a different people, and our version will look much kinder and gentler.

aklim · #6 08-06-2010, 07:16 PM

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Geo. Bush's Compassionate Conservatism had some fascistic tendencies, but he was hardly what anyone would call a Conservative.

He was and still is a politician. That means he is conservative if it suits him, liberal if it doesn't. As long as he gets the correct number of votes, he will be whatever you want him to be.

MS Fowler · #7 08-06-2010, 07:25 PM

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He was and still is a politician. That means he is conservative if it suits him, liberal if it doesn't. As long as he gets the correct number of votes, he will be whatever you want him to be.

And THAT is exactly what i have against most politicians today.

I want principled people who can articulate a position and then make their decision based on that basic philosophy.
Its one of the reason I actually like Hillary--I disagree with her, but I KNOW where she will stand on almost any issue. Same, in a grudging way for the President. he is doctrinaire, and will always take a radical position.

Most of the repubs i see, are not concerned with overall philosophy, and I see that as a fault. As it says in the Bible, ( or nearly so) I would rather you were hot or cold, but instead you are lukewarm ( tepid) and I will spite you out of my mouth.

aklim · #8 08-06-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

And THAT is exactly what i have against most politicians today.

I want principled people who can articulate a position and then make their decision based on that basic philosophy.
Its one of the reason I actually like Hillary--I disagree with her, but I KNOW where she will stand on almost any issue. Same, in a grudging way for the President. he is doctrinaire, and will always take a radical position.

Most of the repubs i see, are not concerned with overall philosophy, and I see that as a fault. As it says in the Bible, ( or nearly so) I would rather you were hot or cold, but instead you are lukewarm ( tepid) and I will spite you out of my mouth.

Reps, Dems, Independent. All the same. It is a job. The election is like a job interview where you spin fantastic tales of what you will do when elected. Problem is that is the best it can be since it is run by people.