...for cars! I was is Tucson over the weekend, and I'm STILL wiping the drool from my chin. w123s, 114s, 70's BMW's, plus countless others, all remarkably rust-free, running, and so new-looking. I'm really starting to not like Ohio anymore...

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1989 300E 144K

best thing arizona has going for em is the dry heat. it wont rust out a car like it will here

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

That's true up to a point. From a rust situation it's great. However the sun kills clearcoats and destroys interiors. Also on that government thing. We have the worst emissions nazi's in the country in Phoenix so lot's of otherwise viable vehicles wind up in the junk yards because of that.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

But only in the Phx-Tucson area. The rest of the state is emissions test-free. Haven't had an EM test required since I moved out of Phoenix in 74
Flagstaff has some rust issues due to the snowy winters, but they haven't used salt in many years so that's improved things greatly.

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You're a daisy if you do.
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84 Euro 240D 4spd. 220.5k sold
04 Honda Element AWD
1985 F150 XLT 4x4, 351W with 270k miles, hay hauler
1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4
1993 Toyota 4wd Pickup 226K and counting

I can't wait to get the **** out of Phoenix. Wife and I hope to be in a position to get up to the high country within ten to fifteen years.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

Yes, we are spoiled.

Arizona cars have diferent problems unlike here where rust is an issue, they have lots and lots of sun and heat damage issues, as collapsed headliners cracked or even burned plastic that just crumbles, dried up rubber and moldings. cracked dashboards, crumbling steering wheels, damaged paint etc.

Reminds me of the mystery that Toyota engineers were puzzled with when they frist started selling cars here in the US in the 60's. Dealers were reporting back to Japan that the cars were having recurring problems with winter starting. This puzzled the engineers since they have similar winter weather and there was no issues with the domestic cars in Japan. So, a team of engineers went to the US to investigate.

They were shocked to discover that Americans did not uniformly park their prized posessions in covered garages, out of the elements. More weatherproofing and insulation cured the problem.

I really do not get the issue people have with emission testing. Personally I think it should be nation wide with no exemptions. I am tired of driving behind smoking cars who got their plates out side of the metro-plex area to by pass the emission test. I keep my car in good working order and it passes the em emissions each year. If it keeps the air cleaner, I'm all for it.

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2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

So set up a portable tent over the car when parking in the sun.

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

All of my cars are in better working order then when they left the factory, hence they wouldn't pass an e-check.

-J

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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

So, move already.

I left the rust-belt almost 38 years ago - best move I could have ever made!

With unemployment climbing, you may need to move-up your move......

I think Prescott, the territorial capitol, would likely have the most moderate, rust belt free and not sun baked weather conducive for keeping cars nice.

I almost relocated there 20 years ago.

Not as cold and snowy as Flag, but not the murderous heat seen in Phoenix and Tucson.

Anyone else think it'd make a nice AZ. choice? And, what about Pinetop? A lot of Arizona natives take summer vacation there....

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

about 30 yrs ago my dad was talking of moving out to prescott.