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Old 09-07-2010, 10:21 AM
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You folks in AZ are spoiled (cars not gov't)

...for cars! I was is Tucson over the weekend, and I'm STILL wiping the drool from my chin. w123s, 114s, 70's BMW's, plus countless others, all remarkably rust-free, running, and so new-looking. I'm really starting to not like Ohio anymore...

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Old 09-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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best thing arizona has going for em is the dry heat. it wont rust out a car like it will here
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:25 AM
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...for cars! I was is Tucson over the weekend, and I'm STILL wiping the drool from my chin. w123s, 114s, 70's BMW's, plus countless others, all remarkably rust-free, running, and so new-looking. I'm really starting to not like Ohio anymore...
That's true up to a point. From a rust situation it's great. However the sun kills clearcoats and destroys interiors. Also on that government thing. We have the worst emissions nazi's in the country in Phoenix so lot's of otherwise viable vehicles wind up in the junk yards because of that.

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Old 09-07-2010, 10:30 AM
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That's true up to a point. From a rust situation it's great. However the sun kills clearcoats and destroys interiors. Also on that government thing. We have the worst emissions nazi's in the country in Phoenix so lot's of otherwise viable vehicles wind up in the junk yards because of that.

- Peter.
But only in the Phx-Tucson area. The rest of the state is emissions test-free. Haven't had an EM test required since I moved out of Phoenix in 74
Flagstaff has some rust issues due to the snowy winters, but they haven't used salt in many years so that's improved things greatly.
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But only in the Phx-Tucson area. The rest of the state is emissions test-free. Haven't had an EM test required since I moved out of Phoenix in 74
Flagstaff has some rust issues due to the snowy winters, but they haven't used salt in many years so that's improved things greatly.
I can't wait to get the **** out of Phoenix. Wife and I hope to be in a position to get up to the high country within ten to fifteen years.

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Old 09-07-2010, 01:21 PM
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:10 PM
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Arizona cars have diferent problems unlike here where rust is an issue, they have lots and lots of sun and heat damage issues, as collapsed headliners cracked or even burned plastic that just crumbles, dried up rubber and moldings. cracked dashboards, crumbling steering wheels, damaged paint etc.

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Old 09-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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Reminds me of the mystery that Toyota engineers were puzzled with when they frist started selling cars here in the US in the 60's. Dealers were reporting back to Japan that the cars were having recurring problems with winter starting. This puzzled the engineers since they have similar winter weather and there was no issues with the domestic cars in Japan. So, a team of engineers went to the US to investigate.

They were shocked to discover that Americans did not uniformly park their prized posessions in covered garages, out of the elements. More weatherproofing and insulation cured the problem.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:24 AM
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I really do not get the issue people have with emission testing. Personally I think it should be nation wide with no exemptions. I am tired of driving behind smoking cars who got their plates out side of the metro-plex area to by pass the emission test. I keep my car in good working order and it passes the em emissions each year. If it keeps the air cleaner, I'm all for it.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:44 AM
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Arizona cars have diferent problems unlike here where rust is an issue, they have lots and lots of sun and heat damage issues, as collapsed headliners cracked or even burned plastic that just crumbles, dried up rubber and moldings. cracked dashboards, crumbling steering wheels, damaged paint etc.

So set up a portable tent over the car when parking in the sun.
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:06 AM
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I keep my car in good working order and it passes the em emissions each year. If it keeps the air cleaner, I'm all for it.
All of my cars are in better working order then when they left the factory, hence they wouldn't pass an e-check.

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Old 09-08-2010, 01:24 AM
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...for cars! I was is Tucson over the weekend, and I'm STILL wiping the drool from my chin. w123s, 114s, 70's BMW's, plus countless others, all remarkably rust-free, running, and so new-looking. I'm really starting to not like Ohio anymore...
So, move already.

I left the rust-belt almost 38 years ago - best move I could have ever made!
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:27 AM
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I can't wait to get the **** out of Phoenix. Wife and I hope to be in a position to get up to the high country within ten to fifteen years.

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With unemployment climbing, you may need to move-up your move......
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:39 AM
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I think Prescott, the territorial capitol, would likely have the most moderate, rust belt free and not sun baked weather conducive for keeping cars nice.

I almost relocated there 20 years ago.

Not as cold and snowy as Flag, but not the murderous heat seen in Phoenix and Tucson.

Anyone else think it'd make a nice AZ. choice? And, what about Pinetop? A lot of Arizona natives take summer vacation there....
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about 30 yrs ago my dad was talking of moving out to prescott.

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