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Household income plunged in 2009
From todays Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092800465.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert Hopefully, this is turning around as unemployment finally starts to recover, these data are from 2009. |
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- Peter.
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The United States 'might' be stable by 2015. Any predictions for it stabilising earlier than that would be considered 'ambitious',in my opinion.
I certainly hope that I am proved wrong in my assumption. |
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I'm down over 15% this year over last (our FY ends 9/30), but last year was actually a pretty good year for us. Part of this year's reduction was making sure the company shows a decent profit this year since we just changed banks for our operating line of credit. The recession did hit the Northeast a bit later than the rest of the country so we're still playing "catch-up."
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Til then, we'll just blame the poorly-handled economic recovery to the administration holding office during that timeframe, vowing to elect an alternative to the next term that can obviously do far better..
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Everything's hunky-dory. Uh-huh.... |
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I'm up at least 300% if not more compared to 2009. 2009 was my worst year ever; I still scratch my head how I made it with out getting in debt or being evicted. What I learned about 2009 is that it doesn't take that much to end on the street...
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It has a lot to do with your individual location and industry. We are looking at averages, I don't know anyone who falls right on the average. However, the household income data may be more important than the unemployment data for the overall economy.
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Of course it is, how could it not be?
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Average Rich or Median Poor?
"Most American households are nowhere near being financially independent. Nor will most be able to retire in comfort. Yet there is more bad news. What if the equity in homes and motor vehicles is factored out of the median net worth figure? Then the median figure is about $34,000 or about 2/3 of the annual median income generated by a typical American household today. Who will care for these people when they are no longer able to support themselves? Don’t bet on your government. In the not so distant future, it is likely that you will only be able to rely on yourself and your loved ones. You must take it upon yourself to spend less and save more. Survival, like charity, begins at home.
The typical American worker who becomes unemployed today has only about two years of wealth to live on before he hits economic ground zero." -Thomas J. Stanley, PhD Last edited by Skid Row Joe; 09-28-2010 at 03:32 PM. |
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Debt?
Total debt increased from $1,186 per person in 1948 to $10,168 in 2010.
(Not EVEN counting mortgage/real estate debt & using 2010 dollars!) -Fed Reserve... How about you? |
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Lets see adjusted for inflation $1,186 in 1948 would be...$10,453.76. So were doing a bit better these days, cool.
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I think that number was already adjusted to current value.
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Good catch. Today's per person total personal debt (NOT including any mortgage and real estate debt) is nearly 10 times per person what it was 62 years ago.
That's called leverage, and it reflects the attitude of going backwards. |
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Quote:
- Peter.
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