The trouble is when the wealthy see no reason to invest, taking billions of dollars out of circulation. Or they invest their money overseas where they might get a better return.

The challenge is to shake that money loose stateside without the government outright seizing it.

Unless that happens, the middle class will continue to shrink away, and the calls for socialism will keep getting louder.

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1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

When any FOX news poll comes out- or any poll that liberals don't like the standard response is: "poll can't be counted on to be accurate, you know, with cell phones and only XXXXX folks have home phones so the results are skewed, blah blah blah......." Where are those anti-poll people? If you are not here then in the future you have no ground to stand on with regards to poll accuracy.

Shocker is the poll is five years old.

Who conducted said poll of 5,522 random people and where& who was the sample population?
(a randomly selected 5,522-person sample, reflecting the country's ideological, economic and gender demographics, surveyed in December 2005)

Half the fun of driving a really old benz (in good condition) is that people don't have any idea what your deal is. It's sorta like wearing ratty clothes with a really expensive watch. Driving a new one is obvious; driving a new low-end benz will just make you look like you're trying to impress someone.

gee whiz... having a bad day are we??

Guess the little smiley did not indicate the underlying sarcasm... Really starting to wonder about the education of our youth, when so many here cannot identify simple devices like irony and sarcasm....

I believe that the idea of giving away our Mercedes was.... sarcastic!!! which I then perpetuated with my....sarcastic comment!!!

Please do try and follow along....

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Why does it have to be one absolute or the other? Why can't we accept that neither is perfect and that a combination may workout better? Capitalism is full of flaws and so is socialism but they both have traits that are worthy as well. I for one would like to know that medical treatment and bills would not be something I would have to worry about when I am old(er). The only way I see that happening is with government involvement. Capitalistic Ins Companies and care givers are not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

There are colors on the pallet other than black and white.

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2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

That is exactly what the Europeans have done, for the most part.

no doubt they have great health care, but who is paying?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg

I had a chance to move there for a decent paying job, then they told me they want 50% tax and I declined. With deductions I pay around 16% now. couldnt see a 3 fold increase in taxes being to my benefit.

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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale
2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold
2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably)
1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast)
1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style)
2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails)

You pay on the front end or you pay on the back end. One way or the other you pay. I would gladly pay 50% tax in order to get health care, public transportation, retirement care and a few other things I cannot think of.

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Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

not sure that 50% over my lifetime of earning would be fair to me, but if I was making 15K a year id jump on it.

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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale
2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold
2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably)
1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast)
1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style)
2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails)

You might get all that for your 50% tax, but the quality will go down and the fraud will go up. In other words, you'll pay more but end up getting less. It's very shortsighted to think that you're gonna get a utopia for the 50% taxes, and even more shortsighted to think that the 50% won't creep its way up to 75% in a decade or two.

The govt does a lousy job at everything except protecting our butts (arguable, I know). They less money they have, the better off we all are. They spend foolishly and I intend on giving them the least amount of money possible. Frankly, I'm stunned that ANYONE thinks giving those idiots more money is going to accomplish anything. Do you not pay attention to what they do in DC? Have you read anything about our current debt situation?

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1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600

Poor people have a lot of nice stuff that I don't have. I love going into section 8 rentals, they usually have nicer TV's than me, and lease newer Mercedes and Lexus. My favorite had a 48in plasma in every room, I can only hope to one day have such luxury through hard work. But in the mean time I'm happy my tax dollars are supporting such a lifestyle for other people.

Socialism? No I don't like socialism it rewards leaches; I'm a big fan of the work or starve system, dog eat dog, or in some cases shark eat dog. Voting for socialism is just being afraid of the big fish in the pool and wanting to stay in the kiddie pool.

Right now half the country doesn't pay taxes and that's a shame.

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2016 Corvette Stingray 2LT
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

The problems with both socialism and capitalism can be summed up with one word: Greed. Greed is not good, greed is why insurance costs so much and why taxes are so high. People have an opportunity to collect on insurance, so they sue for millions for some stupid little thing. Juries give them these obscenely huge judgments to "stick it to the other guy" but are really sticking it to the insurance company. The insurance company needs to see a double digit profit growth annually or the stockholders freak out, so they raise the premiums we all pay. Everyone in congress has some little pet project and wants to line their pockets as well, so they give themselves a raise and up the taxes to cover it, or ramrod something through "for our own good" without disclosing what new taxes it adds, or even reading it for that matter.
As far as redistributing, I already had someone try to tell me I should find someone more deserving to take my engine instead of using what I have, so you can keep your damn redistributing. Although, they were from Colorado so we can just blame it on the lack of oxygen.

Guess which country was least affected by the recession ??

Hope the idiots out there realize that corporations are / have taken over our democracy.

Did you know that 1 in 8 homes in the US are for sale ?

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
Jimi Hendrix

Are you feeling a little disenfranchised ?

No hope for a positive change ?

Guess who wants you to feel that way ?

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
Jimi Hendrix