Excuse me Sanitation worker.

On Trash Inc, (CNBC) they said the starting pay for a NY City Sanitation worker is 70k per year plus full benefits and a pension.

Now I don't know if I'd want this job, although for 70k to start I would definitely think about it, but this really doesn't sound right.

So is this due to Unions, Government (stupidity) or ???

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why the hell am I going to college?

Not defending or anything, but It might be high due to the fact that its nyc..and its a big pricey to live there maybe?

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I'm certainly not defending municipal unions, but I don't think my family could live in NYC on $70K. A friend's daughter (single, new college grad) took a entry level job in NYC for about $50-60K and is really having to scrimp to support herself. Fortunately, her dad is able to subsidize her until she works her way up the pay scale in a couple of years.

I can assure you that most households in "NYC" manage to survive on far less than your friend's daughter's amount of "$50-60K" a year...PLUS her Daddy's additional subsidization.....

It's silly to claim that a single adult needs financial sudsidies to survive in NYC above and beyond "about $50-60K" because she can't get by. -Preposterous....

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X2 Joe,
Its more about what standard of living she demands.
A new BMW, flash apartment in a top area etc. She is not likely to meet the right sort of guy if she is in a low down neighborhood.

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It isn't.


It also includes ALL YOU CAN EAT !!! < laugh >

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What I find preposterous is a determination from a man who never lived in NYC or has any concept of the costs in NYC. Furthermore, he puts "NYC" in quotes as if he really doesn't grasp the multitude of neighborhoods in NYC and the huge variance in costs depending on the locale.

I have no idea what Joe posts.

My friend's daughter actually lives in a fairly modest apartment in manhattan, but he's certainly not going to let her live in a slum. She doesn't even have a car with her, it was too expensive to bring one and pay for parking. It's actually cheaper to hire a car or even rent one if you need to go someplace beyond the city. I'm not saying that you can't live there on a small income, but you wouldn't want to try.

I drove a garbage truck for awhile. I tell ya folks..it's harder than it look's.
Unless of course you are operating a roll-off container truck.

I agree, there is a lot of variation. To be fair, she works and lives in manhattan and I know her dad wouldn't let her live in a marginal neighborhood. My only experience living in the area was a couple of years working in Westchester county and renting a small house for my use on weekdays. I've never lived within the city, but I have some idea of the costs.

I am.

You are not living in Manhattan on an income of less than $75K per year. Even this figure is not sufficient unless you have the fantastic good fortune of a rent stabilized apartment.

If you make less, you're getting subsidized from other sources or you're sharing an apartment with others.

Yup, I'm sure this young lady is getting some significant checks from her dad to make ends meet, I think she's paying in the $2-3000 range for a pretty small walk-up apartment. My friend spent an entire weekend carrying tons of cheap Ikea up three flights of stairs. Who knows how long she'll want to stay, but it sounded like a pretty interesting first job.

Brian,

"NYC" is in quotations, because of craig's claims. Craig knows perhaps far less than I do, because I actually lived and worked in "NYC" (all the boroughs) for months out of the year. The only borough I did not work in, but travelled through was The Bronx, on my way to work out the expressway toward Connecticut.

I wasn't stupid enough to base in NYC, I based near Rutgers University in New Jersey while I lived and worked in "NYC."

I can assure you, that craig's post needed a lot of quotation marks, because he obviously knew little of his "friend's daughter's" details about living and working in "NYC."

I know all about "NYC's multitude of neighborhoods" and pricing differences because again "I lived and worked in NYC" for months out of the year.

My duties included working in all the boroughs, of "NYC," something that craig may know nothing about. If you are assuming I know nothing of "NYC," that, Brian, is not the case.

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