Originally Posted by elchivito

My vet has done emergency anaesthesia on large animals here a couple of times. It's risky and I'd only do it in a life threatening situation. I don't know about pets though. You can't take a downed show horse to the dr.'s office.
Stitching's easy. I normally do my own for small to medium cuts. Sub-Q lidocaine has little effect on heartrate, IM will affect it greatly. Normally I don't even stitch a 1 inch cut. If there's no arterial bleeding, I wash it out first with peroxide, then 7% iodine, wait till bleeding gets to the sticky stage, and glue it shut with superglue gel or NuSkin, same thing. Then I paint another layer of glue over the cut. A shot of long acting antibiotic and that's it. I've had lots of secondary infections from stitches, none when I use superglue and virtually no scarring.

Originally Posted by davidmash

I would imagine that scale is a factor here as well. A 1 inch laceration on a horse is probably as big of a deal as a 1 inch laceration of a Min-Pin (she s 5 pounds) She would have had to be sedated a bit at least since she is very hyper and would not have sat still while being stitched up.

Originally Posted by elchivito

My vet has done emergency anaesthesia on large animals here a couple of times. It's risky and I'd only do it in a life threatening situation. I don't know about pets though. You can't take a downed show horse to the dr.'s office.
Stitching's easy. I normally do my own for small to medium cuts. Sub-Q lidocaine has little effect on heartrate, IM will affect it greatly. Normally I don't even stitch a 1 inch cut. If there's no arterial bleeding, I wash it out first with peroxide, then 7% iodine, wait till bleeding gets to the sticky stage, and glue it shut with superglue gel or NuSkin, same thing. Then I paint another layer of glue over the cut. A shot of long acting antibiotic and that's it. I've had lots of secondary infections from stitches, none when I use superglue and virtually no scarring.

Originally Posted by Daman858

My wife paid a $12,000 vet bill!

Her horse had a bad case of colic which is very serious in horses. We rushed him up to the University of of Pennsylvania horse hospital in New Bolton, PA. He had surgery there and is now doing very well almost 3 years later.

Originally Posted by chilcutt

I completely agree. I did all of the work on my bulldogs. From an entire chest being opend, to split lips. Had medical staples, and the removal tool. A dog will flinch a little at first, but then just wait for you to finish. Trick is to not become panicked when you see the wound, your panic is what flakes the dog out.

Originally Posted by aklim

Depends on the dog. My pit bull bore pain very well. My Peis, not so good. Even cutting their nails, they wiggle and try to pull away. I don't know much about min-pins but most of the smaller dogs are too fidgety

Originally Posted by chilcutt

Apply muzzle, have assistant restrain animal,,sew it up...save 500 bucks...no brainer.

Originally Posted by aklim

It's the wiggling that makes the sewing hard. We had an old pei that we gave some of my pain meds to and she was getting drowsy so it was ok. I restrained her and the wife sewed up a 2 inch gash a quarter inch deep. Without those meds of mine, the dog would be struggling. Pushing a needle in and out, you cannot have struggling.

When I fractured my pelvic ring and the RN was trying to push a needle in me and didn't do it well, I fired her and had my wife do it. I'm in pain and you want to go digging around my arm? Sorry. 3 strikes and you are done. I was holding still then. Try doing it with the wiggling and life gets a lot more difficult. With Bulldogs and Pit Bulls and Rotts, it is easier than a poodle. Those don't bear pain well

Originally Posted by chilcutt

Thanx, you brought up a needle memorie I tried to forget. Had a knee surgery, and they did a lower block. (wont talk about how it feels when you wake up and cant feel ..ANYTHING' below the waist). Anyway, the needle installation nurse has me sit, and bend forward, to open my spine. There are 2 channels in the vertebra, she missed the correct channel, and hit my cyotic nerve. I couldnt move becuase she has the needle in my spinal canal- but the pain was shooting light an electric volt from the point of the needle, all the way to my toe.

She got fired as well. Got another nurse who garenteed me she would hit the right place.

Originally Posted by aklim

This RN was a friend of the wife's but she worked in the Child Mindfawk unit where they are little more than glorified babysitters. As such, she didn't have enough practice doing what she was supposed to do. Stick it in and going digging around isn't my idea of a good time. Much less when I am in pain. She was saying I was a difficult poke. I already had my temper under control by the 3rd stick. Transferred responsibility to the wife who did it in 1 poke. If you think I am going to be your pin cushion or practice dummy, you got another think cumming. Go learn on someone else

Originally Posted by chilcutt

Same thing w/me when I have to get stitches. I am already in pain, so I forbid the doc to go sticking a needle around in the wound in an effort to numb the pain.

It just doesnt make sense to create more pain.

Cleanit..stitch it, bandage it, collect my payment. See ya, have a nice day.