Agreed. I don't think any of the last 3 generations of teenage girls would feel any differently towards the matter.

Perhaps the real problem is that Gov Walker is a typical politician who knows laying people off costs votes.

If the government is bloated, by all means, lay people off, cut programs, get it done. Is it your position that the state should maintain it's bloated self? I'd rather see them maintain wage gains than jobs. Funny how I never hear you guys complain about bloated CEO salaries.

Tell that to Bill Clinton. :D

Normally, not. But...

It's been a weird 3 weeks...that's all. I seem to be a bit too "Black & White" when it comes to certain issues...like my wallet and my feelings on a certain few subjects...like no one could tell? :rolleyes: :D

BTW Tom, that father said he respected his daughter's explaination, but he did agree that she'd need to stand up for what she believed. We both said that in this case, she's probably waiting for the right time to pick the fight. He's hoping when she does, she beats the snot out of them. Figuratively, not physically.

Reminds me a bit of the Hortonville Teachers' Strike, back in '74-'75, up here in Wisconsin. We lost a lot of good teachers that were required to cross the picket-lines. One teacher ended up having a nervous-breakdown during the State Music Convention...very sad situation. And very nasty.

How'd the revolution go?

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What if they gave a revolution and nobody came?

...then they would just revolve.

When you talk about destruction, don't you know that you could count them out?

Well, that would be an unsuccessful circle-jerk. :eek:

I guess you just don't pay attention when responses don't fit the expected pattern.
I have spoken against bloated CEO salaries and the Boards of Directors who grant them. I think in many cases it is fiscal malfeasance. Where we differ is that I do not automatically think government intervention is the best answer.

The governor will have to lay off people if the cowardly dems do not return and allow the vote to take place. Weren't you highly critical of "the party of 'no'", as you called the repubs? At least the repubs had the stones to stay and make to vote. They took their lumps but they didn't sabotage the process. I think you probably said the elections have consequences. Well what was good for the goose is good for the gander, Except the dems are too cowardly to participate.

I would bet that the people of WI will support the Governor if he has to lay off workers to balance the budget. Maybe the radicals will continue their protests, but the majority will support him. Now, do you believe in majority rule, or does a vocal, partisan minority have the right to force their minority voice? That sounds more like tyranny than a representative democracy.

Even the dialogue they are using sounds like recycled Soviet propaganda from the 50's.

Maybe she read Sunztu. Bring them to her steep. Then fight them. Don't fight the enemy on their ground. OK, maybe she's seen a few Chech Marin movies. No not those, Coronado. The ghost of Coronado, tells the kid to fight his battles on grounds that favor him to win. Or possibly she goes redneck, and see she had to pittbull, I mean dog in this fight.
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Then let him lay them off. At this point, he refuses to, because his real agenda is union busting. Who is the real coward? The gov, hiding behind his fake reasons that hides his real agenda, or those who refuse to go along with this illegal and unConstitutional attempt to deny people the right to form a union? If he has any "stones", then why doesn't he just step up and give everyone the bad news? They have a government they cannot afford. If they want the same level of services, they need to pay more taxes, or be without those services. Tell gov to make a choice.

How is it "illegal"?

No less authority on American progressivism than FDR, did not think that public sector unions were in the public interest.

It is easy to be cynical and see public sector unions as simply a way to use tax-payer funds to support the democrat party. The money is taxed from the citizens and paid to public sector Union employees where a % is siphoned off as dues. The dues go to the PAC for the Union which supports the democrat candidate who then increases their pay and benefits.

[I]The 14 Wisconsin Democratic senators who fled to Illinois share more than just political sympathy with the public employees and unions targeted by Gov. Scott Walker's budget-repair bill.

The Senate Democrats count on those in the public sector as a key funding source for their campaigns.

In fact, one out of every five dollars raised by those Democratic senators in the past two election cycles came from public employees, such as teachers and firefighters, and their unions, a Journal Sentinel analysis of campaign records shows.[I]

Pretty slick.