About as credible as "Penthouse Forum" letters:D

Oh, wait those are real letters,right;)

Tell us all, if I and a group of other employees assembles, can you legislate us not talking to each other? Oh, sorry, I forgot, circa 1910, with a machine gun.....

I'm pretty sure a teenage girl would not be saying "leave it be."

More like, "Gah, dad, like, totally, leave me alone... barf." (with the clicking noise of her texting at the same time)

What in the world are you talking about?

The right of public employees to unionize is a legislative right. The state is considered a sovereignty and you cannot bargain with the king.

My teacher friend assures me that they routinely use Google to check for plagarism. She also points out that Wikipedia is a good place to start any research project, because Wiki requires extensive foot notes, and the foot notes link to other sources of information on the subject, and urges the ignorant to check it out for themselves. I'm aware that right wing nut jobs have this whole "Wiki is a left wing plot" meme, the real truth is it is becoming a revolutionary and extremely useful source of truthful information.

The right to strike and collectively bargain was bought with blood in this country. Perhaps you should ask the last king how things worked out for him. The Wisconsin gov deserves great credit for re-vitalizing the movement. It doesn't take a genius to see the general decline of the American Middle Class mirrors that of the decline of unions. Maybe it's time for a change.

The pac's are free to support any candidate that supports education. We have quite a few in our part of the state who support education even though R. I am quite certain you will find they receive contributions from the pac's along with democrats who support education.

I heard recently that one of our local state sentators is getting heat from the Tea party movement to stop supporting education.;)

It'll be a tough call for him, support what he believes in and what the majority of the voters support or pander to the tea baggers.

Such hyperbole.

This is the State of Wisconsin; not some cigar-chomping, capitalistic pig. The employer is the State of Wisconsin--the birthplace of Progressivism.
Do you think so poorly of the citizens of that great State?

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Couldn't explain it any more simpler than that myself.

Now the battle cry is "I don't have a pension or health care so why should you"
What an ingenius plan" let's take away as much as we can from who we can and let them rally against the ones we can't take from"
Welcome to the Dumbing down of America.

"Revitalizing the movement". This is going to reverse 40 years of declining membership, influence, and relevance?

Dream on.

He's giving them the choice to act like men and admit they've been taking advantage of the the state's taxpayers for over 50 years.

Collective Bargaining is NOT A RIGHT. It's an agreement. If the two parties don't AGREE, then the agreement ends.

No one is losing anything except the hammer that's being held over the heads of the taxpayer.

Wisconsin is one of the top 5 taxing States in the Nation. The reasons the State-Unions are making this much of a stink is when they lose their position (it will happen), 4 other States are going to ask for, and receive, the blue-print for bringing financial common sense back into the legislative offices of each of those States' Capitals.

As for the "polls" showing that the people of Wisconsin are having 2nd thoughts about this showdown...it's a bunch of left-wing garbage...screamed through bull-horns paid for by the taxpayers themselves.

Many knew this day was going to happen. It's going to be ugly. So be it. If anything, I'm proud to say that Wisconsin is leading the way. Also, considering that it was responsible for starting this BS, to begin with, isn't so great, but I'm not going to apologize for crap that thieves started 50 years ago.

Yep, thieves. Short-term thinking for long-time, ill-gotten gains...a little bit here and there, then they kept going and going. Once the germ of greed got into their bloodstream, it was like Ebola...you're infected and you can't get it out of your system.

And that's the danger here...when the smoke and mirrors are finally blown and bulldozed away, sure, there will be some causulties, but someone should have seen the storm coming along time ago.

The problem now is...no one from the taxpayers' side of the road is going to care anymore about the few screaming "What about me?"

WHY?

Because, no one from that side of the road cared enough about the taxpayer to make sure he wasn't suffering while THEY were sucking his blood.

In this case, no one is wanting to lay in the bed that the State-Union Employees slept and ***** in anymore.

Funny thing...actual conversations mean more to those that are there than someone trying to throw aspersions using a porn-magazine as their ammunition. But, if that's the highest level of intelligent conversation some folks can obtain in life, then all that shows is there's a real need for more State-sponsered education (probably 8th Grade for starters) in that person's future...starting today.

Let us know when the Graduation date is! :thumbsup: :rolleyes: :D

This was the dad, talking to me about his kid...maybe HE embellished it a bit so his kid, maybe, wouldn't look so "whatever"...I'm trying to do him honest by keeping MY OPINION out of the it and relaying it as close, and as accurately, to what he told me. If folks want to think differently, so be it. At least, I listened to the guy. Most folks would have said "So what?"