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Fulcrum525 03-16-2011 10:14 PM

Motorola Xoom VS iPad
 
Because of a new job i'm in great need of a highly mobile multi-mission electronic organizer.

I've been playing around with an iPad over the past week and while i've liked some things, it has mostly managed to get on my nerves. I was highly annoyed by the number of restrictions Apple forces upon you while browsing or trying to change settings. However it was the calendar that ticked me off the most. It just wasn't intuitive to use and I question it's ability to upload calendar updates. (I will need my calendar to be visible to 2 or 3 other people even if I make last minute changes)


I recently found out about the Motorola Xoom so today I went into a store to play around with one today. I have to say that I liked it :). The calendar program was damn near perfect and of course it uses a lot of google software. I'm hoping that it will at least be compatible with microsoft Outlook (And possibly Microsoft Dynamics or other CRM programs)

I've always looked at the iPad as nothing more then a scaled up iPhone so i'm definitely leaning towards the Xoom on this.

Any thoughts?

lutzTD 03-16-2011 11:57 PM

My android does not sync with outlook, I had to put them in google mail by importing a data file. No back and forth at all

Drezell 03-17-2011 12:18 AM

I was going to say Xoom because if it's between the two options, I wouldn't want the iCrap.

Especially because the iPad will most likely have an even newer version soon after getting the latest one and that's all just very annoying...

If the calendar is the most important part to you, and you've played around with both, and the Xoom is better, definitely go with that. Afraid I do not know what it is compatible with but I'm sure someone will be able to tell you. Have you looked at any other options yet?

Oh, and if the Xoom is good with google, then DEFINITELY do it. Also check to see if it is better with changing settings than the iPad. Best of luck in your search, sir! Let me know what you end up with.

TheDon 03-17-2011 12:40 AM

I have google calander on my iPhone. It's awesome.

Ara T. 03-17-2011 12:49 AM

You can always jailbreak your Ipad. All you do is go to a website.

davidmash 03-17-2011 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD (Post 2681832)
My android does not sync with outlook, I had to put them in google mail by importing a data file. No back and forth at all

My droid works fine with Gmail calendar. When I enter the appointment there is a portion called "calendar' under the times and the 'all day' selection. I go into that, select my Gmail and it updates nearly instantly. Anyone who looks at the gmail calendar an see the appointments.

pawoSD 03-17-2011 01:26 AM

androids/droids can sync with outlook very easily....I have one laying on my desk that is this very moment.

I cannot stand apple products. I played with an iPad at the verizon store and wanted to smash it after 5 minutes. The only thing worse is a whole computer running their OS....

DrewGerhan 03-17-2011 01:49 AM

Xoom!

Way more usable, upgradeable, future proof and all around a better deal with the 4G option, Android 3.0, SD card slot, bigger screen and Flash!

Medmech 03-17-2011 01:58 AM

I have both and a Galaxy tablet and I'm have no prejudice, the with the exception of 4g capability the iPad win's hands down. The Xoom is no slouch but its not an iPad.

and remember I have all of the high end tablets, personally I like the Samsung over the Xoom.

TheDon 03-17-2011 08:58 AM

The iPad is a price leader, $499 for a really nice tablet. I'd buy one of the new iPads if I could.5 week back order.. Tells a lot

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 09:02 AM

Looks like it's going to be the Xoom then. Alright i'll grab one tonight and report back in time.

lutzTD 03-17-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2681869)
androids/droids can sync with outlook very easily....I have one laying on my desk that is this very moment.

I cannot stand apple products. I played with an iPad at the verizon store and wanted to smash it after 5 minutes. The only thing worse is a whole computer running their OS....


can you elaborate for the OP and for me. I tried a few things and no joy. I can sinc perfectly with gmail, they are the same for the android, but MS Outlook is a whole nother ball game. sinc to me means it will instantly get emails and contact differences matched up when you plug it to the computer. I did a one time import to get my conacts but email, fagetaboutit. My Co is eventually migrating to gmail so its only temprary and didnt sway my decision. Andriod is pretty awesome

Medmech 03-17-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD (Post 2681972)
can you elaborate for the OP and for me. I tried a few things and no joy. I can sinc perfectly with gmail, they are the same for the android, but MS Outlook is a whole nother ball game. sinc to me means it will instantly get emails and contact differences matched up when you plug it to the computer. I did a one time import to get my conacts but email, fagetaboutit. My Co is eventually migrating to gmail so its only temprary and didnt sway my decision. Andriod is pretty awesome

I would use the Outlook gmail conduit its a tiny program and it will sync with your outlook wireless and real time.

And there is about a thousand other ways to do it but that seems to be the easiest to most people. If your IT will allow why don't you simply install exchange on your phone?

https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync

lutzTD 03-17-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2681975)
I would use the Outlook gmail conduit its a tiny program and it will sync with your outlook wireless and real time.

And there is about a thousand other ways to do it but that seems to be the easiest to most people. If your IT will allow why don't you simply install exchange on your phone?

https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync


Thanx, I really only want to sinc the contacts, Its my personal phone so real time email would not be to my benefit..... I also need it to be an APP on the phone, I cant install an application like that on my company computer

Medmech 03-17-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD (Post 2681978)
Thanx, I really only want to sinc the contacts, Its my personal phone so real time email would not be to my benefit..... I also need it to be an APP on the phone, I cant install an application like that on my company computer

No app needed on the phone just install the conduit and it will sync with your gmail, make sure you have calendar and contact sync enabled on the phone.

Android comes with exchange support on board so you may not even have to mess with all of that, ask your IT department what the exchange settings are.

Medmech 03-17-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulcrum525 (Post 2681956)
Looks like it's going to be the Xoom then. Alright i'll grab one tonight and report back in time.

Are you going for the Xoom because of time waiting for the iPad2? if so it's worth the wait trust me. And I know that you can order them at Verizon stores with much faster turn around.

MTI 03-17-2011 10:47 AM

One interesting observation of the Galaxy Tab in a business environment . . . when you bring it to a meeting, you won't be wasting the first few minutes while other meeting attendees come over to play with it like they do with an iPad. ;)

TheDon 03-17-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2681993)
Are you going for the Xoom because of time waiting for the iPad2? if so it's worth the wait trust me. And I know that you can order them at Verizon stores with much faster turn around.

Yes, because not many people want the verizon 3G network! The apple store a friend of mine works at has a glut of Verizon 3G iPads. But none of the others.

iwrock 03-17-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2681869)
androids/droids can sync with outlook very easily....I have one laying on my desk that is this very moment.

I cannot stand apple products. I played with an iPad at the verizon store and wanted to smash it after 5 minutes. The only thing worse is a whole computer running their OS....

Its cool, I cannot stand windows/android products... :eek: After playing with a Windoze box for 5 minutes, I wanted to smash it.

iwrock 03-17-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2681869)
androids/droids can sync with outlook very easily....I have one laying on my desk that is this very moment.

I cannot stand apple products. I played with an iPad at the verizon store and wanted to smash it after 5 minutes. The only thing worse is a whole computer running their OS....

I have an images for this!



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63...gonna_hate.gif

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by iwrock (Post 2682032)

Is that the kid from Australia who body slammed that bully?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/295824-kid-bodyslams-bully-becomes-instant-web-hero.html

Hatterasguy 03-17-2011 02:53 PM

Have Kevin hack it and turn it into a phone, or whatever.:D

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2682140)
Have Kevin hack it and turn it into a phone, or whatever.:D


I remember that too :D

We already discussed that but it looks like the Xoom has VOIP ability right out of the box.

amosfella 03-17-2011 03:28 PM

I played with my friend's ipad, and within 5 min I bounced it off the floor it made me so mad... and I"m not one that gets mad like that easily. I find that thing beyond frustrating... Much like the iphone. It's sooooooo limited as to what you actually can do with it. I'd just buy a netbook.... At least you can load real software into it.
Oh, net boos have a real keyboard in them as well... so you dont' need to use most of the screen to type on while you're doing something. They have dual cored processers in these netbooks as well, and a 8-10 hour battery life.
Friend of mine bought one, added another gig of ram, and put in a SSD HD, and that thing is blazing fast. When you hit the shutdown button, it shuts down so fast it bluescreens.... And that's running windows 7.

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 04:02 PM

I thought about the netbook approach but I already have a full sized laptop. Any real software will be loaded onto that with the Xoom being used for calendar updates and keeping notes/calls organized. The Xoom is great because it's highly mobile and I can get it up in running in a few seconds rather then a few minutes.

Ara T. 03-17-2011 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amosfella (Post 2682164)
I played with my friend's ipad, and within 5 min I bounced it off the floor it made me so mad... and I"m not one that gets mad like that easily. I find that thing beyond frustrating... Much like the iphone. It's sooooooo limited as to what you actually can do with it. I'd just buy a netbook.... At least you can load real software into it.
Oh, net boos have a real keyboard in them as well... so you dont' need to use most of the screen to type on while you're doing something. They have dual cored processers in these netbooks as well, and a 8-10 hour battery life.
Friend of mine bought one, added another gig of ram, and put in a SSD HD, and that thing is blazing fast. When you hit the shutdown button, it shuts down so fast it bluescreens.... And that's running windows 7.

I have a dual core Atom netbook I got 3 months ago that I use for school (primary because I need 10+ hours of battery life) and while it is fast enough, it is not nearly as snappy as a tablet like the Ipad. Sorry I dont know what you're smoking ( I also upped the RAM to 2GB). Netbooks are very limited in terms of graphics processing (anything involving video...720P will be a bit choppy for example).. the ones with faster graphics chips cut down battery life by half. I can see the appeal of the Ipad but I find I type probably 2x as fast on my netbook with real keyboard.

MTI 03-17-2011 06:58 PM

Tablets, particularly the iPad, weren't designed to replace a computer, anymore than an iPod was designed to replace a home stereo or video system.

amosfella 03-17-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 2682185)
I have a dual core Atom netbook I got 3 months ago that I use for school (primary because I need 10+ hours of battery life) and while it is fast enough, it is not nearly as snappy as a tablet like the Ipad. Sorry I dont know what you're smoking ( I also upped the RAM to 2GB). Netbooks are very limited in terms of graphics processing (anything involving video...720P will be a bit choppy for example).. the ones with faster graphics chips cut down battery life by half. I can see the appeal of the Ipad but I find I type probably 2x as fast on my netbook with real keyboard.

The solid state hard drive was a major part of the upgrade making it that fast. The ram itself didn't do that much of a speed increase...

Ara T. 03-17-2011 07:24 PM

Unfortunately a SSHD will have little to no effect on processing video/graphics. Sure for what it is, my little netbook is pretty quick, but with an Ipad, you turn it off and it goes black instantly. Turn it on and it comes back on instantly.

I'd probably buy one if I had the inclination, but I dont really see the point of tablets.

amosfella 03-17-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 2682267)
Unfortunately a SSHD will have little to no effect on processing video/graphics. Sure for what it is, my little netbook is pretty quick, but with an Ipad, you turn it off and it goes black instantly. Turn it on and it comes back on instantly.

I'd probably buy one if I had the inclination, but I dont really see the point of tablets.

Yes, Graphics are the function of the GPU in the computer. If the GPU or the screen can't keep up, there's nothing you can do about that. My friends netbook was only used for word processing and testing networks. He showed me that with windows 7, when he hit the shutdown button, the computer would give the blue screen of death.
The closest thing he was possibly doing that would be graphics was looking at pics.

iwrock 03-17-2011 07:41 PM

Sandybridge. :)

Botnst 03-17-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2681869)
androids/droids can sync with outlook very easily....I have one laying on my desk that is this very moment.

I cannot stand apple products. I played with an iPad at the verizon store and wanted to smash it after 5 minutes. The only thing worse is a whole computer running their OS....

Yeah, Unix is for pussies.

Ara T. 03-17-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amosfella (Post 2682278)
Yes, Graphics are the function of the GPU in the computer. If the GPU or the screen can't keep up, there's nothing you can do about that. My friends netbook was only used for word processing and testing networks. He showed me that with windows 7, when he hit the shutdown button, the computer would give the blue screen of death.
The closest thing he was possibly doing that would be graphics was looking at pics.

BSOD sounds software related, not hardware GPU problem. I honestly havent gotten one since Windows 98, where it was a daily occurrence

Medmech 03-17-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 2682025)
Yes, because not many people want the verizon 3G network! The apple store a friend of mine works at has a glut of Verizon 3G iPads. But none of the others.

No comment other than I and can see the inventory of every Verizon iPad in the country and your friend owes you a beer or something for fibbin.

Medmech 03-17-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2682300)
Yeah, Unix is for pussies.

No, it's for fruits.

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 08:38 PM

Posting from my new Xoom. Pretty neat so far and functions the way I want it to i.e it does what I tell it to do, no questions asked. :D:D:D

Medmech 03-17-2011 08:38 PM

And if someone wants to get into the nuts and bolts we can discuss Chrome OS...yea..got one of them too.;)

Medmech 03-17-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulcrum525 (Post 2682324)
Posting from my new Xoom. Pretty neat so far and functions the way I want it to i.e it does what I tell it to do, no questions asked. :D:D:D


How does the Flash and 4G work?

amosfella 03-17-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2682325)
And if someone wants to get into the nuts and bolts we can discuss Chrome OS...yea..got one of them too.;)

What is the chrome OS you mean??? Do tell!!! :D

Fulcrum525 03-17-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2682327)
How does the Flash and 4G work?


Busy night so I didn't have much time to play around with it. I'll post most information as I use it more.

Medmech 03-18-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by amosfella (Post 2682419)
What is the chrome OS you mean??? Do tell!!! :D

Google Cr48

Medmech 03-31-2011 11:05 PM

I have little bias toward Android or iOS and have been testing an array of tablets and while the Xoom may have some great potential I have found that the iPad 1 or 2 is superior on almost every front. The basic principle of a tablet is they are supposed to simply just work they should fit every age group and skill level of user. Even at the highest skill level the Xoom still fails doing almost everything from rapidly connecting to networks to using Office HD while I can count on 1 finger how many times an iPad crashed or failed to load a video or connect to a network. I do like the 3d window functionality of the Xoom but thats all glitz and ritz compared to the iPad that just simply works the way it should.

Also the iPad syncs so ****** easy with cloud or cable based data it puts it into a class of its own, the Xoom amy have many apps to get it to perform like an iPad but the iPad is still the measuring stick IMO.

I am still fond of the simple 7" Samsung Galaxy with the exception of 4G (which the Xoom still does not have) I gets the job done and it just seems to be the perfect size for its purpose and its only $200.

TheDon 03-31-2011 11:07 PM

I'm thinking about getting a nook color and rooting it to run android /CM7

Medmech 03-31-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 2690772)
I'm thinking about getting a nook color and rooting it to run android /CM7

I can't argue with that, but since the words rooting and jailbreak can cost me my job..............no comment:o

TheDon 03-31-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2690778)
I can't argue with that, but since the words rooting and jailbreak can cost me my job..............no comment:o

lol ... awesome.. We'll see. A friend of mine did it to a nook color, I'll need to check it out and see if its worth it.

Ara T. 03-31-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2690778)
I can't argue with that, but since the words rooting and jailbreak can cost me my job..............no comment:o

:D Can I ask what you do?

Medmech 04-01-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 2690793)
:D Can I ask what you do?

Nothing special, just get to test, sell and play with the toys.

Fulcrum525 04-01-2011 09:50 AM

Sorry to not post an update but work has been very busy lately.


Thus far my xoom has been a GREAT tool for business and even managed to get me out of a bind two days after I bought it. The camera is perfect and i've been using it to document and record several things.

I still feel that's it's a more flexible platform then the iPad for a number of reasons. Its much more friendly with Microsoft software for example.

I haven't had any issues with connectivity and I haven't had a need to get any apps.

Also this post was done on the unit and didn't take long at all to type :D

TheDon 04-01-2011 10:04 AM

Yeah, but its still not an iPad.

Medmech 04-01-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 2690938)
Yeah, but its still not an iPad.

As mama used to tell me ipad is I pad does.


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