Don't freak out about the cel, it could be as simple as a bad O2 sensor or a loose gas cap. It doesn't take much to trigger the light.

My local sears sells a few code readers if you want to do some hands on comparing.

Is it a steady or blinking cel?

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Huh... ours won't reset codes for you (not officially, anyway), but no mention of not being able to even read them. Do they rent tools in CA? I can imagine that's a liability issue as well. Sheesh...

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1980 Euro 300D (sadly, sold)
1998 Jetta TDI, 132K "Rudy"
1974 Triumph TR6
1999 Saab 9-5 wagon (wife's)

If all you need is the code read, most small shops will do it for a very nominal fee and will many times point you in the right direction.

Sometimes you can score a nice code reader for little cash at the local pawnshop, most will let you try it out on your own car to make sure it works.

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I have one from MAC tools. I got it from a buddy that upgraded. It will erase codes and has been handy as hell.

You know, he should ask the local Snap On/Matco/Mac guy if he could buy a trade in. He could probably get a nice one for the cost of the nicer el cheapo Actron unit.

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I'm not to worried about what the problem is. The truck stalled on the freeway about 2 weeks ago, but never had the CEL come on. I read on a Dodge forum that its normally the O2 sensor that is the problem, but a bad O2 sensor normally comes with the CEL.... I've been waiting for the truck to act up again so get an idea of what the problem may be. but its been fine the last 2 weeks.

I'm hoping what ever is throwing the CEL is also what caused the stall.

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How would the O2 sensor cause it to stall? One way to find out is to hook up a DVOM to the O2 sensor wire and see what it does. If it is always at a certain reading, sure. Higher voltage means rich and lower voltage means lean. It should move back and forth pretty quickly otherwise it is getting lazy

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Mass air sensor going off value has been the common issue on a lot of cars firing a code we have had over the years. Usually just grabbed a used one from an auto wrecker. Notice any change in fuel milage? Of course I never go with the odds as reading codes is so easy.

CPS is the most common stall on a gasser having "no codes"; it overheats, stops providing timing data and the computer shuts down before any code is registered. Starts and runs fine once cools off. Anything else that stops the engine usually degrades emisions such that a code is registered.

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N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)

I grabbed one of those $20+ dollar USB connectors off of ebay. Reads/resets codes and the included program can monitor stuff of the onboard stuff like O2 sensor voltage and the like.

They rent tools, there's no liability for them if you break your own junk.

code reader showed up today! fastest shipping ever!

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Excellent.



Now, can we fix the problem with a hammer and duct tape?

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91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd
01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd
07 MB ML320 CDI - dd
16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd

it's automatic.

The last Dakota I had threw me a CEL for the batter temperature sensor of all things...

I've had 3 of them, and they love the CEL light.

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1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k
1980 240D Stick China 188k
2001 CLK55 AMG 101k
2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!!

Question on the code reader shown on an earlier post with the Dell computer. Will that unit read sensor values and tell you exactly which sensor is at fault? I'm setting up shop and that looks like just what I need to work on the newer MB's. If anyone is familiar with the unit shown please pm me your thoughts on it.

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Imho, you might want to check out http://www.omitec.com/us/home/

I just bought one from them and it is very user intuitive, and is made mainly for european cars. This company is based in the U.K. and the unit is very high quality and also built in the U.K.

I bought the OmiNspect with Fast Check Kit, well in reality, it was a very nice gift from swmbo so I don't know exactly how much it was. Even though i'm a diy guy, I figure it will pay for itself.

It came with specific and generic cables, shows live data, can reset oil service lights, and can also scan abs and airbag systems. On the BMW E36, even after I fixed the srs problem, the airbag liight stayed on. It must be reset at the dealer, or by someone who has the tool. The dealer wanted $150 to reset the light, if I had a shop I;m sure it would generate business that I would have to turn away. I'm pretty sure it can also deactivate the brakes on late model MB, so you can replace the pads.

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